- From: Davy Van Deursen <davy.vandeursen@ugent.be>
- Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 15:48:30 +0200
- To: "Media Fragments Working Group WG" <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
Dear all, The minutes of today's telecon are available for review at http://www.w3.org/2010/09/29-mediafrag-minutes.html (and in text format below). Best regards, Davy ---------- [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference 29 Sep 2010 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Sep/0075.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2010/09/29-mediafrag-irc Attendees Present Yves, Davy, Raphael Regrets Silvia, Erik Chair Erik Scribe davy Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]ADMIN 2. [6]MEDIA FRAGMENT EXTENSION: 3. [7]PUBLIC COMMENTS 4. [8]AOB * [9]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ <trackbot> Date: 29 September 2010 <raphael> Chair: Raphael ADMIN <scribe> scribenick: davy <raphael> [10]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-mediafrag-minutes.html [10] http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-mediafrag-minutes.html PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 22 September 2010 telecon: [11]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-mediafrag-minutes.html [11] http://www.w3.org/2010/09/22-mediafrag-minutes.html +1 <Yves> +1 <raphael> +1 RESOLUTION: minutes accepted <raphael> ACTIOn-183? <trackbot> ACTION-183 -- Raphaël Troncy to send reminders to all relevant groups -- due 2010-09-15 -- OPEN <trackbot> [12]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/183 [12] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/183 raphael: will finish that today <raphael> ACTIOn-185? <trackbot> ACTION-185 -- Yves Lafon to book zakim for the 2 days meeting of the group on Mon 1st and Tue 2nd Nov -- due 2010-09-29 -- OPEN <trackbot> [13]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/185 [13] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/185 Yves: pending, will do that right now <raphael> TPAC registration: [14]http://www.w3.org/2010/11/TPAC/#Registration [14] http://www.w3.org/2010/11/TPAC/#Registration [15]http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2010reg/registrants#Medi aF [15] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2010reg/registrants#MediaF <raphael> Registered persons for TPAC from the group: [16]http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2010reg/registrants#Medi aF [16] http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2010reg/registrants#MediaF <scribe> ACTION: troncy to remind Jack and Michael to register asap for TPAC [recorded in [17]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01] [17] http://www.w3.org/2010/09/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-188 - Remind Jack and Michael to register asap for TPAC [on Raphaël Troncy - due 2010-10-06]. MEDIA FRAGMENT EXTENSION: action-186? <trackbot> ACTION-186 -- Philip Jägenstedt to send his list of test cases to the mailing list for understanding how browsers handle %-encodded and html-encoded URL -- due 2010-09-29 -- OPEN <trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/186 [18] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/186 <raphael> [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Se p/0057.html [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Sep/0057.html Yves: wonder if the same thing can be obtained with firebug close action-186 <trackbot> ACTION-186 Send his list of test cases to the mailing list for understanding how browsers handle %-encodded and html-encoded URL closed action-187? <trackbot> ACTION-187 -- Philip Jägenstedt to start a new thread about extensibility of the Media Fragments in order to get consensus by next week -- due 2010-09-29 -- OPEN <trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/187 [20] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/187 raphael: people agreed with proposal (2) of Philip yves: would like to know the opinion of Jack raphael: first decide which proposal, afterwards decide how it is written in the spec yves: just against the fact that saying that all key-value pairs are media fragments raphael: on condition is that you need to have keys that we understand ... if this is not the case, it's not a media fragment yves: not in favour, but also not against this close action-187 <trackbot> ACTION-187 Start a new thread about extensibility of the Media Fragments in order to get consensus by next week closed raphael: philip would like to distinguish between validity and parsing yves: if we have grammar explaining what should be there, and a parsing algorithm, that's fine <raphael> Is this grammar could be [21]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Au g/0005.html [21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Aug/0005.html yves: this is not a grammar ... it's a general approach to parse key-value pairs raphael: the grammar we currently have, will be kept of course <Yves> I propose, keep the current grammar and add the extension point, _and_ define a parsing algorithm for those who need it <Yves> mediasegment = namesegment / axissegment <Yves> axissegment = ( timesegment / spacesegment / tracksegment ) <Yves> *( "&" ( timesegment / spacesegment / tracksegment ) <Yves> ; <Yves> => add extensionsegment there yves: a mediasegment can't be only an extensionsegment <raphael> Yves propose that: mediasegment = namesegment / axissegment / extensionsegment + prose to state that a media segment cannot be only an extension segment yves: we have to state that extensions should remain compatible with the current spec ... e.g., bounding box (through xywh) as fallback for an arbitrary shape (through ref) <Yves> extensionsegment = extensionname '=' extensionvalue <raphael> extensionsegment = extensionprefix '=' extensionparam <Yves> issue is with extensions that conflict with already defined axis, like 'ref' being impacting the spatial dimension defined by 'xywh' raphael: top-level production rules of the grammar should be in de document as well, not only in the appendix ... in section 4.3.5 or 4.1 <scribe> ACTION: troncy to put the top-level production rules back into the document (in section 4.3.5 or 4.1) [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02] [22] http://www.w3.org/2010/09/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-189 - Put the top-level production rules back into the document (in section 4.3.5 or 4.1) [on Raphaël Troncy - due 2010-10-06]. raphael: still missing is a paragraph how things should be parsed ... I will ask Philip regarding this issue close action-187 <trackbot> ACTION-187 Start a new thread about extensibility of the Media Fragments in order to get consensus by next week closed action-173? <trackbot> ACTION-173 -- Yves Lafon to produce the code that will check the grammar of both the URI syntax and the Headers syntax -- due 2010-06-22 -- OPEN <trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/173 [23] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/173 yves: not done yet for the header syntax PUBLIC COMMENTS <raphael> ACTION-184? <trackbot> ACTION-184 -- Yves Lafon to email Chris the reply on when to send the range header -- due 2010-09-15 -- OPEN <trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/184 [24] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/184 close action-184 <trackbot> ACTION-184 Email Chris the reply on when to send the range header closed raphael: should we use the bug tracker for LC comments? yves: a manual approach should be feasible (e.g., manually building an HTML table) raphael: suggest to start with manual approach, when a lot of comments are coming, we might consider using the bug tracker <raphael> ACTION-167? <trackbot> ACTION-167 -- Erik Mannens to find licence free movies for the automatic test suite ... starting with Elephant Dreams and the creative commons -- due 2010-06-02 -- OPEN <trackbot> [25]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/167 [25] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/167 AOB [adjourned] Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: troncy to put the top-level production rules back into the document (in section 4.3.5 or 4.1) [recorded in [26]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: troncy to remind Jack and Michael to register asap for TPAC [recorded in [27]http://www.w3.org/2010/09/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01] [26] http://www.w3.org/2010/09/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02 [27] http://www.w3.org/2010/09/29-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01 [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________ -- Davy Van Deursen Ghent University - IBBT Department of Electronics and Information Systems - Multimedia Lab URL: http://multimedialab.elis.ugent.be/dvdeurse
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