- From: Yves Lafon <ylafon@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:22:15 -0400 (EDT)
- To: Philip Jägenstedt <philipj@opera.com>
- cc: Jack Jansen <Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl>, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>, Raphaël Troncy <raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr>, Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: > You cannot write a robust MF parser based on this grammar, because > t=1&foo=bar is not a valid production, meaning that any future extension foo > of MF will cause that parser to fail completely. Either the grammar itself > must be relaxed, or the parsing must be defined normatively and handle some > things which are not valid productions of the grammar. What do you mean by "robust" ? >> With the current grammar, it is allowed only in track and id productions. >> So it is perfectly compatible with the processing defined in rfc3986 and >> perfectly allows #track=A%20%26%20B&t=10 > > No disagreement that we need to define it, thankfully. The disagreement is > only where to decode percent-encoding. RFC3986 gives the answer, after the URI components are parsed (and we define here how to split out in components). > <issue> > > MF parsing must be defined normatively in the MF spec itself, meeting these > conditions: > > 1. should handle all valid productions of the ABNF syntax correctly and, > where necessary, input which is not valid per the syntax. > > 2. must be forward-compatible, so that future extensions to MF do not break > existing MF parsers. (Compare to how new HTML elements and attributes or CSS > properties degrade in implementations that don't understand them.) I completely disagree with this, as it may preclude other uses than mediafragment to use an "a=b" syntax. > 3. should match as closely as possible how query components on the form > a=1&b=2 are parsed by existing server-side software (e.g. ASP, PHP, JSP, Perl > CGI) > > </issue> > > An implementation that conforms exactly to the (current, non-normative) ABNF > fails condition 2 (e.g. t=1&foo=bar) and is not an option. As I completely disagree with 2, strict ABNF makes perfect sense. -- Baroula que barouleras, au tiéu toujou t'entourneras. ~~Yves
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