- From: Thomas Steiner <tomac@google.com>
- Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 09:57:59 +0100
- To: Davy Van Deursen <davy.vandeursen@ugent.be>, Raphaël Troncy <raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr>
- Cc: Media Fragments Working Group WG <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
Hi Davy, hi Raphaël, I have sent my regrets privately to Raphaël on Tuesday, so if you could add that fact to the minutes, that'd be nice :-) I'll send regrets to the mailing list in the future, this seems to be the right way to do that, correct? Cheers, Tom On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 07:51, Davy Van Deursen <davy.vandeursen@ugent.be> wrote: > Hi all, > > the minutes of yesterday's phone conf are available for review at http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html and in text > format below. > > Best regards, > > Davy > > ------ > [1]W3C > > [1] http://www.w3.org/ > > Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference > > 08 Dec 2010 > > [2]Agenda > > [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Dec/0010.html > > See also: [3]IRC log > > [3] http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-irc > > Attendees > > Present > Erik, Davy, Raphael, Yves, foolip_(irc) > > Regrets > Silvia > > Chair > Erik, Raphael > > Scribe > Davy > > Contents > > * [4]Topics > 1. [5]ADMIN > 2. [6]MEDIA FRAGMENT SPECIFICATION > 3. [7]HTML5 BUG > 4. [8]LC COMMENTS > 5. [9]OPEN ISSUES > 6. [10]TEST CASES > 7. [11]AOB > * [12]Summary of Action Items > _________________________________________________________ > > <trackbot> Date: 08 December 2010 > > <raphael> Scribe: Davy > > <raphael> scribenick: davy > > ADMIN > > <raphael> [13]http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-mediafrag-minutes.html > > [13] http://www.w3.org/2010/12/01-mediafrag-minutes.html > > +1 > > <raphael> +1 > > <Yves> +1 > > minutes accepted > > MEDIA FRAGMENT SPECIFICATION > > raphael: action 199 and 200 will be finished today > ... related to issue-19 > ... mail will be sent out today > > Action-191? > > <trackbot> ACTION-191 -- Yves Lafon to update the production rules > of the time dimension with the npt format for making the hours > optional -- due 2010-11-08 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [14]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/191 > > [14] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/191 > > Yves: did the code, I'm working on the spec right now > > HTML5 BUG > > <raphael> ACTION-202? > > <trackbot> ACTION-202 -- Silvia Pfeiffer to draft the paragraph that > the group will propose to HTML5 regarding how the control of media > fragment URI should be done -- due 2010-12-01 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [15]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/202 > > [15] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/202 > > <raphael> See text at > [16]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010De > c/0009.html > > [16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Dec/0009.html > > <raphael> Raphael: do you have comments on this text? > > <raphael> ... my only comment is whether we should further detail > how temporal media fragments can work, with our without server help > > <raphael> .. depending on the container format > > <raphael> ... should we go into this level of details > > <davy_> raphael: when no controls are specified in <video> > > <davy_> ... the rendering is like the ?-approach > > <davy_> raphael: is the text of silvia sufficient? > > <davy_> ... and reopen the bug with this text > > <davy_> Yves: nothing against it > > <davy_> close action-202 > > <trackbot> ACTION-202 Draft the paragraph that the group will > propose to HTML5 regarding how the control of media fragment URI > should be done closed > > <davy_> ACTION: silvia to send the MF clarification text to the HTML > mailinglist [recorded in > [17]http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-205 - Send the MF clarification text to > the HTML mailinglist [on Silvia Pfeiffer - due 2010-12-15]. > > <raphael> Raphael: both whatwh and w3c mailing lists > > <davy_> ACTION: troncy to reopen the MF bug in the HTML5 bug tracker > [recorded in > [18]http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-206 - Reopen the MF bug in the HTML5 bug > tracker [on Raphaël Troncy - due 2010-12-15]. > > LC COMMENTS > > <davy_> raphael: action 196 will be done today > > OPEN ISSUES > > <davy_> close action-191 > > <trackbot> ACTION-191 Update the production rules of the time > dimension with the npt format for making the hours optional closed > > <raphael> List of open issues: > [19]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/open > > [19] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/open > > <Yves> done > > <raphael> > [20]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/open > > [20] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/open > > <davy_> raphael: Issue-19 is taken care of > > <davy_> raphael: difference between issue-13 and 20? > > <davy_> no difference -> close issue 13 > > <davy_> close ISSUE-13 > > <trackbot> ISSUE-13 Write a IETF draft for proposing how to register > the fragment scheme for all media types closed > > <davy_> issue-18? > > <trackbot> ISSUE-18 -- RTSP processing of Media Fragments URI -- > open > > <trackbot> > [21]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/18 > > [21] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/18 > > <davy_> raphael: should we include this in the spec or not? > > <davy_> yves: if we do that, we probably need another LC > > <davy_> raphael: alternative could be putting this into an annex > > <davy_> ... informative status > > <davy_> Yves: better would be in another document (a note) > > <davy_> ACTION: troncy to setup a poll regarding the fact that RTSP > will be discussed in a separate note [recorded in > [22]http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-207 - Setup a poll regarding the fact that > RTSP will be discussed in a separate note [on Raphaël Troncy - due > 2010-12-15]. > > <davy_> Issue-17? > > <trackbot> ISSUE-17 -- Media Fragment track names and IRIs -- open > > <trackbot> > [23]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/17 > > [23] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/17 > > <davy_> Yves: or we close it because we don't know how to handle > IRIs > > <davy_> ... or we continue discussions > > <raphael> reading the thread starting at > [24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010AprJun/ > 0149.html > > [24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010AprJun/0149.html > > <davy_> raphael: I18N recommends us to use IRI as reference > > <raphael> Key message: > [25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010AprJun/ > 0153.html > > [25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010AprJun/0153.html > > <davy_> ACTION: troncy to ask today who will make it to the teleconf > next week [recorded in > [26]http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-208 - Ask today who will make it to the > teleconf next week [on Raphaël Troncy - due 2010-12-15]. > > <davy_> close action-208 > > <trackbot> ACTION-208 Ask today who will make it to the teleconf > next week closed > > <raphael> Raphael: both Erik and Davy cannot make next week telecon > > <davy_> raphael: we will organize early in January a teleconf with > everybody, joined by Addison Philips > > <davy_> Issue-10? > > <trackbot> ISSUE-10 -- Media Fragments Test Case Maintenance -- open > > <trackbot> > [27]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/10 > > [27] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/10 > > <davy_> raphael: related to test cases > > <davy_> issue-9? > > <trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- Should we have the media type inside the Test > Cases? -- open > > <trackbot> > [28]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/9 > > [28] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/9 > > <davy_> raphael: also related to test cases, we can ignore them for > transitioning > > TEST CASES > > <davy_> Action-167? > > <trackbot> ACTION-167 -- Erik Mannens to find licence free movies > for the automatic test suite ... starting with Elephant Dreams and > the creative commons -- due 2010-06-02 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [29]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/167 > > [29] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/167 > > <davy_> raphael: fine to use elephants dream and big bug bunny > sequences > > <davy_> ... so we can use these media resources in our demos and > examples in the spec > > <raphael> Movies to use: > > <raphael> Sintel, [30]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac7KhViaVqc > > [30] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac7KhViaVqc > > <raphael> ... longer version, > [31]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQ > > [31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQ > > <raphael> Big Bunny, [32]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSGBVzeBUbk > > [32] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSGBVzeBUbk > > <raphael> The Elephant Dreams > > <davy_> close action-167 > > <trackbot> ACTION-167 Find licence free movies for the automatic > test suite ... starting with Elephant Dreams and the creative > commons closed > > <davy_> action-168? > > <trackbot> ACTION-168 -- Davy Van Deursen to investigate how the > automatic test suite could also be done for evaluating the UA > behavior -- due 2010-06-02 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> > [33]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/168 > > [33] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/168 > > AOB > > <raphael> Raphael: presentation of test cases handling by Davy > during the face to face meeting, > [34]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/meetings/2010-11-01-f2 > f_lyon/ > > [34] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/meetings/2010-11-01-f2f_lyon/ > > <raphael> Raphael: we have an exhaustive list of test cases for the > time dimension on the wiki > > <raphael> ... which has been reviewed by Conrad, Silvia, Jack and > Philip > > <raphael> > [35]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TemporalDimension > > [35] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TemporalDimension > > <raphael> Davy: I'm happy to convert the information in the wiki > into a RDF file > > <raphael> ... this RDF file can then be the input of our test > validation framework > > <davy_> close action-168 > > <trackbot> ACTION-168 Investigate how the automatic test suite could > also be done for evaluating the UA behavior closed > > <davy_> ACTION: Davy to convert TCs from the wiki to an RDF version > [recorded in > [36]http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-209 - Convert TCs from the wiki to an RDF > version [on Davy Van Deursen - due 2010-12-15]. > > <davy_> [adjourned] > > <raphael> > [37]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TemporalDimension > > [37] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TemporalDimension > > <raphael> > s/[38]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TemporalDimensi > on// > > [38] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/TemporalDimension// > > Summary of Action Items > > [NEW] ACTION: Davy to convert TCs from the wiki to an RDF version > [recorded in > [39]http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action05] > [NEW] ACTION: silvia to send the MF clarification text to the HTML > mailinglist [recorded in > [40]http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01] > [NEW] ACTION: troncy to ask today who will make it to the teleconf > next week [recorded in > [41]http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action04] > [NEW] ACTION: troncy to reopen the MF bug in the HTML5 bug tracker > [recorded in > [42]http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action02] > [NEW] ACTION: troncy to setup a poll regarding the fact that RTSP > will be discussed in a separate note [recorded in > [43]http://www.w3.org/2010/12/08-mediafrag-minutes.html#action03] > > [End of minutes] > _________________________________________________________ > > > Minutes formatted by David Booth's [44]scribe.perl version 1.135 > ([45]CVS log) > $Date: 2010/12/08 11:01:33 $ > > [44] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm > [45] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ > > > -- > Davy Van Deursen > > Ghent University - IBBT > Department of Electronics and Information Systems - Multimedia Lab > URL: http://multimedialab.elis.ugent.be/dvdeurse > > > > > -- Thomas Steiner, Research Scientist, Google Inc. http://blog.tomayac.com, http://twitter.com/tomayac
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