- From: Raphaël Troncy <Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl>
- Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:15:11 +0100
- To: Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
[with the correct subject heading, apologies for the duplicate] An agenda for tomorrow's telecon follow ... ----------- Dear all, I just realized that the minutes of our last telecon (07/10/09 sic!) have not been sent yet to the mailing list. Here they are ... Cheers. Raphaël ------------- [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference 07 Oct 2009 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2009Oct/0000.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2009/10/07-mediafrag-irc Attendees Present Erik, Raphael, Jack, Yves, Conrad, Davy Regrets Silvia, Michael Chair Erik, Raphael Scribe conrad Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]1. admin 2. [6]2. UC & Requirements doc 3. [7]3. Specification 4. [8]4. Test Cases 5. [9]7. AOB * [10]Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________ <trackbot> Date: 07 October 2009 <raphael> Chair: Erik, Raphael <scribe> scribenick: conrad 1. admin <raphael> Last week telecon minutes: [11]http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-mediafrag-minutes.html [11] http://www.w3.org/2009/09/30-mediafrag-minutes.html <Yves> +1 to accept minutes <erik> +1 <raphael> +1 <davy> +1 RESOLUTION: to accept the minutes of 2009-09-30 raphael: i have reworked the use case and req documents 2. UC & Requirements doc <raphael> ACTIOn-116? <trackbot> ACTION-116 -- Davy Van Deursen to davy And Erik to review UC & Requirements document before pub -- due 2009-10-07 -- OPEN <trackbot> [12]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/116 [12] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/116 ACTION-105? <trackbot> ACTION-105 -- Raphaël Troncy to address all comments and write a reply to MAWG -- due 2009-09-16 -- OPEN <trackbot> [13]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/105 [13] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/105 ACTION-106? <trackbot> ACTION-106 -- Raphaël Troncy to draft a paragraph explaining upfront in the document why we are doing that ... justification for the MPEG community -- due 2009-09-16 -- OPEN <trackbot> [14]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/106 [14] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/106 close action-116 <trackbot> ACTION-116 Davy And Erik to review UC & Requirements document before pub closed close action-105 <trackbot> ACTION-105 Address all comments and write a reply to MAWG closed close action-106 <trackbot> ACTION-106 Draft a paragraph explaining upfront in the document why we are doing that ... justification for the MPEG community closed <raphael> Some unanswered questions: [15]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-req s/ [15] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-reqs/ <raphael> Werner suggests we don't use the term "Mask" <davy> continuous view? <erik> "continous part"? <raphael> Replace "mask" by a "single segment" jackjansen, just add a statement that we don't want holes <raphael> Jack: we don't want holes raphael: section 3.1 figure explains context, but the last row "example image track" illustrates that we can take a blob of an image, but the text doesn't consider this raphael, case, eg. spatial regions of images phillip suggested we specify that we also support spatial ranges jack: what is the difference (from our point of view) between text and image track? i think the overlapping content is the main thing so for temporal addressing there can be multiple text elements which match a temporal region jack: for this draft perhaps we should only specify audio+video and chasing dependencies of previous text elements (ie. working out which are active now) can be more difficult than eg. video keyframes raphael: we should publish, including these minor changes jack: editorial note by silvia is a question to the reader ... editorial note by dave singer, needs to be addressed (sec 3.12)? "The fallback plan needs to be clarified. We must be able to handle the way the # is already used, e.g. in YouTube, without breaking what is already working." raphael: the wg. has discussed that we need to be backwards-compatible with existing implementations as much as possible eg. youtube syntax, and we are still discussing what the behaviour should be so is the vague phrasing of compatibility with "widely implemented solutions" enough? raphael: we have already discussed that eg. the youtube way could be a different syntax we specify, with explicity hms jack: ok then we should add a sentence about that, and a note to suggest that parsers recognize foreign syntax and stay away from it ... so if we draft a paragraph and send it to dave, see what he thinks raphael: ok, but also that is not blocking the publication of documents <raphael> [16]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-req s/ [16] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-reqs/ Proposed to publish documents currently staged at [17]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-req s/ [17] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-reqs/ <raphael> +1 for publication <davy> +1 <Yves> +1 <erik> +1 <jackjansen> +1 <nessy> +1 +1 RESOLUTION: to publish documents currently staged at [18]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-req s/ [18] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/WD-media-fragments-reqs/ 3. specification 3. Specification action-117? <trackbot> ACTION-117 -- Raphaël Troncy to review Silvia's summary of her blogpost, i.e. the Section 3 of the spec -- due 2009-10-07 -- OPEN <trackbot> [19]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/117 [19] http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/117 raphael: no progress on 117 and 112, pending comments by silvia <raphael> Raphael: suggest to postpone decision on publishing this doc to next week Raphael: after 117 and 112 are complete, we can think about publishing the documents, as they don't currently reflect the progress we have made 4. Test Cases all actions on test cases are pending jackjansen, please notify the mailing list when spec changes are made nessy: we should implement cvs commit emails etc. etc. <nessy> conrad: yes, but we won't have access to the cvs management box, I don't hink <nessy> Yves would know if that was possible <jackjansen> I second silvia's proposal usually there is a separate mailing list for cvs-commits, and a post-hook added to cvs to mail commit details to that list eg. media-fragment-notifications or something like that <scribe> ACTION: Yves to request admins to set up a cvs notifications mailing list and notifications [recorded in [20]http://www.w3.org/2009/10/07-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> Created ACTION-119 - Request admins to set up a cvs notifications mailing list and notifications [on Yves Lafon - due 2009-10-14]. <raphael> Silvia, it just meant we agree on your comment today that the spec doc is not yet ready for publication <raphael> ... but it is pending on my actions <raphael> ... when they are done, I think the missing sections will be here and the document publishable Raphael: AOB? 7. AOB Raphael: AOB? <nessy> raphael: I agree :) Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Yves to request admins to set up a cvs notifications mailing list and notifications [recorded in [21]http://www.w3.org/2009/10/07-mediafrag-minutes.html#action01] [End of minutes] -- Raphaël Troncy EURECOM, Multimedia Communications Department 2229, route des Crêtes, 06560 Sophia Antipolis, France. e-mail: raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr & raphael.troncy@gmail.com Tel: +33 (0)4 - 9300 8242 Fax: +33 (0)4 - 9000 8200 Web: http://www.eurecom.fr/~troncy/
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