- From: Michael Hausenblas <michael.hausenblas@deri.org>
- Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:36:12 +0000
- To: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
- CC: Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>, Raphaël Troncy <Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl>
Dave,
> a) the MIME type of the requested fragment is the
> same as that of the original resource; yes, that
> might result in one-frame movies, and so on;
Sounds good. Didn't think about this one yet. But how do we technically do
this? I fear I don't understand. Could you be more precisely on this option,
please?
Cheers,
Michael
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> From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:30:29 +0100
> To: Raphaël Troncy <Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl>
> Cc: Media Fragment <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: ISSUE-2: What is the mime type of a media fragment? What is its
> relation with its parent resource?
> Resent-From: <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
> Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:32:53 +0000
>
>
> At 15:21 +0100 27/01/09, Raphaël Troncy wrote:
>> Dear Dave,
>>
>>> I think this is a confused question. When a fragment is specified on a URI,
>>>
>>> http:/www.example.com/silvia.mov#chapter=vienna
>>>
>>> the user-agent separates the fragment from the
>>> URI and requests the main part of the resource
>>> over HTTP, and then interprets the fragment
>>> locally. The HTTP server, which gives the MIME
>>> type, is unaware of the fragment.
>>
>> True, the UA will separate the fragment from the
>> URI. We think of having smart UA that will also
>> take the fragment, and converts it into some
>> additional http headers when making the request
>> to the server. The http server will therefore in
>> this case be aware of the fragment requested,
>> and even can decide to serve just this fragment
>> ... When serving the resource, the server writes
>> in the http header the type of the resource is
>> serving. What should it write when it is serving
>> a single key-frame of a video corresponding to a
>> media fragment request where a single time point
>> has been specified?
>
> OK, that would be a subject for the HTTP
> extension that allowed this, wouldn't it? I see
> a few possibilities:
> a) the MIME type of the requested fragment is the
> same as that of the original resource; yes, that
> might result in one-frame movies, and so on;
> b) the UA can indicate what MIME type(s) it would like in response;
> c) the server can decide;
> d) the specification for the base MIME type could
> be revised [but that way we go mad revising RFCs].
>
>>> Even if it gets the fragment in the URI GET, it
>>> is (I think) supposed to ignore it. So the
>>> MIME type of a fragmented resource is the MIME
>>> type of the resource, isn't it?
>>
>> This is what I would think too. But I would like
>> to get the confirmation, since it is not crystal
>> clear (for me).
>> Best regards.
>
> Well, let's step into another realm. Suppose
> that we extend HTTP to allow asking the server to
> extract a piece of a ZIP archive; it makes some
> (but not much) sense for the server to re-zip
> just that piece.
>
>
> Overall, I have to say that the simplest is still (a)...
> --
> David Singer
> Multimedia Standards, Apple Inc.
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