- From: Hausenblas, Michael <michael.hausenblas@joanneum.at>
- Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:48:00 +0200
- To: Raphaël Troncy <Raphael.Troncy@cwi.nl>
- Cc: "Media Fragment" <public-media-fragment@w3.org>
I *did* sent regrets ;)
Cheers,
Michael
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Dr. Michael Hausenblas
Institute of Information Systems & Information Management
JOANNEUM RESEARCH Forschungsgesellschaft mbH
http://www.joanneum.at/iis/
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: public-media-fragment-request@w3.org
>[mailto:public-media-fragment-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of
>Raphaël Troncy
>Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 3:42 PM
>To: Media Fragment
>Subject: minutes of 2008-10-15 telecon
>
>
>All,
>
>The minutes of our today's telecon are available now for review at
>http://www.w3.org/2008/10/15-mediafrag-minutes.html (and in
>text format
>below). Thanks Sivlia for the scribing.
>I have updated
>http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/ScribeList
>
> Raphaël
>
>---------
>
> [1]W3C
> [1] http://www.w3.org/
> Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
>
>15 Oct 2008
> [2]Agenda
> [2]
>http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2008O
ct/0052.html
> See also: [3]IRC log
> [3] http://www.w3.org/2008/10/15-mediafrag-irc
>
>Attendees
> Present
> Raphael, Jack, Davy, Thierry, Erik, Silvia, Yves
> Regrets
> Vassilis
> Chair
> Raphael
> Scribe
> nessy
>
>Contents
>
> * [4]Topics
> 1. [5]ADMIN
> 2. [6]FIRST F2F
> 3. [7]ISSUES LIST
> 4. [8]USE CASES
> 5. [9]STATE OF THE ART
> 6. [10]AOB
> * [11]Summary of Action Items
> _________________________________________________________
>
>
>
> <trackbot> Date: 15 October 2008
>
>ADMIN
>
> <raphael> scribenick: nessy
>
> proposal to accept last meeting's minutes
>
> +1
>
> *Michael requested to enable the image upload feature on
>the WG wiki
>
> it now works
>
> Silvia has uploaded a photo already
>
>FIRST F2F
>
> <raphael>
> [12]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/FirstF2FAgenda
>
> [12]
>http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/FirstF2FAgenda
>
> is the agenda ok and complete?
>
> no objections
>
> Monday will be mostly use cases
>
> please prepare some material for your use cases
>
> the discussion of the syntax will be on Tuesday
>
> jackjansen would like to swap the use cases around, because he can
> attend only on Tuesday
>
> proposes switch of discussion I and discussion III
>
> raphael is ok with it
>
> no further comments
>
> remember to prepare more details on your use cases
>
> please also enter into the wiki your arrival and departure times
>
>ISSUES LIST
>
> action items to go through
>
> <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - items
>
> Raphael to look into image maps spec re spatial fragment shape
>
> image maps allow several different shapes
>
> there are two types of image maps: client-side & server-side
>
> server-side image maps are done with queries ("?") but are
>not often
> used on the Web
>
> <Yves> server-side image maps were used back in 94/95, no
>longer now
>
> cleint-side image maps have as a draw-back the problem that they
> cannot be indexed by search engines
>
> the second action will be discussed during the F2F and thus
> documentation created
>
> <Yves> close ACTION-3
>
> <trackbot> ACTION-3 And Erik to document container formats closed
>
> Silvia has sent a long email and a sketch on how fragments and
> protocols can work
>
> she started with side conditions and then took into account all the
> different standards (HTTP, proxy, URI) that prvide restrictions
>
> Yves was to check the status of ';' in a URI
>
> he sent an email and found that ";" basically has the same
> restrictions as "?"
>
> <Yves> ACTION-5 closed
>
> <trackbot> ACTION-5 Check the status of ';' in a URI closed
>
> he is not sure how many other applications are using ";" for
> different purposes
>
> silvia mentions that we should check use of whatever syntax we
> decide upon by checking existing usage
>
> <Yves> [13]http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3986.txt
>
> [13] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3986.txt
>
> Erik: ";" may be in use by others, too
>
> jackjansen: requested a reading list for the plane
>
> <Yves> Section 3.3 is the useful one, for ;
>
>USE CASES
>
> * Media Annotation UC: [Silvia]
>
> Silvia focused on her action item
>
> will have more at the F2F
>
> * Media Delivery UC: [Davy]
>
> <Erik> Day, you have to speak louder
>
> Davy says we may only have to consider http
>
> raphael: can you investigate more for next week?
>
> * Media Linking UC: [Michael]
>
> Michael modified the UC a little
>
> added Bookmarking
>
> scribe: Playlists
> ... and interlinking
>
> possibility to get input from seesmic for these use cases
>
> Silvia wonders what we can get from seesmic
>
> WP plugin from Seesmic helps leaving comments
>
> Jack: Seesmic is more about chatting than blogging
>
> Silvia: yes, a "video twitter"
>
> Raphael: much links happening between videos in Seesmic
>
> Jack: they seem to still treat each session of video as a separate
> unit
>
> Raphael: probably only because of current technology limitations
> ... if they had temporal URI, they would use it
>
> Jack: ok..
>
> Raphael: let's discuss more at the F2F
>
> * Media Search UC: no volunteer
>
> * Media Browsing UC: no volunteer
>
> Raphael: may need input from the media annotations working group
> ... chance to meet them at TPAC to discuss more
>
> * Photo Book UC: [Erik]
>
> Erik will have something to present at F2F
>
> * Map and Multi Resolution UC: [Raphael]
>
> Raphael will have something to present at F2F
>
> scribe: with discussion of what technologies are currently used
>
> * Karaoke UC: no volunteer
>
> deferred
>
> * Moving Point of Interest UC: [Davy & Erik]
>
> relevant in second phase of WG
>
> nothing to report right now
>
> * Video Browser UC: [Silvia]
>
> will present something at F2F
>
> no further questions on use cases
>
>STATE OF THE ART
>
> <raphael>
> [14]http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/State_of_the_Art
>
> [14]
>http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/wiki/State_of_the_Art
>
> ** HTTP/URI (Michael/Yves)
>
> ** RTSP Fragment (Silvia)
>
> ** SMIL (Jack)
>
> ** CMML (Silvia)
>
> ** MPEG-21 (Davy/Silvia)
>
> ** Spatial Fragment (Raphael)
>
> Issues page is mostly focused on HTTP/URI case
>
> Raphael: Silvia, would you like to add something to CMML
>
> <raphael> Jack: CMML relevant since it allows to attach annotations
> to media fragments
>
> <raphael> Silvia: small overlap
>
> Silvia: CMML relevant from the POV of naming segments in
>media files
> ... but the attachment of metadata, descriptions, timed text and
> outgoing hyperlinks are not that relevant to this WG
>
> Jack: curious to discuss at F2F
>
> <Erik> work hard :)
>
>AOB
>
> no other business
>
>Summary of Action Items
>
>
> [End of minutes]
> _________________________________________________________
>
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