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Re: [Bug 22594] noaccess / peerIdentity as constraints

From: Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca>
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:08:13 +0800
Cc: "DR. Giridhar Mandyam" <mandyam@quicinc.com>, Stefan Håkansson <stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com>, Dominique Hazaël-Massieux <dom@w3.org>, "public-media-capture@w3.org" <public-media-capture@w3.org>
Message-Id: <B75E019B-5850-4338-A5EF-0B20C6CB67EE@iii.ca>
To: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>

The issue is the GUM draft needs to be clear that the media is restricted in who it can be delivered to for all possible ways of delivering it (not just PC). So as long as the text in GUM does that, seems fine to move other parts but we are trying to avoid having GUM normatively depend on PC. 


On Feb 22, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:

> To be honest, I don't care which WG document this is specified in. When
> we initially agreed to put identity into the specifications, the guidance
> was to put the pieces that were arguments to gUM in the media capture
> spec and the pieces that were relevant to WebRTC in the WebRTC spec.
> 
> If people prefer they all go in WebRTC, that seems like a not very important
> document structure question. But maybe I'm missing the bigger picture :)
> 
> -Ekr
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Mandyam, Giridhar <mandyam@quicinc.com> wrote:
> If the UA wants to display a dialog with specific text, I don't think that actual text needs to be specified in this document.  As a comparison point, refer to the guidance in HTML Media Capture for security:  http://www.w3.org/TR/html-media-capture/#security.  But as far as I can tell, none of the DAP WG specs lay out any normative requirements as to the actual text displayed in dialog boxes (but if I'm wrong, please correct me).
> 
> I also don't understand what "identity-of-peer-user" means in a Media Capture context. Moreover, there exist applications that do not require P2P communications, and I don't see why this kind of constraint would be relevant in this case.  Moreover, it is clear that there is no consensus within the group on this particular topic, so I don't know why the editors pulled this into the spec in the first place.
> 
> This constraint may be more meaningful as part of any permissions prompt for  WebRTC, but that issue should be discussed in that WG.  If it has already been discussed there and rejected, then this looks like venue shopping;
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefan Håkansson LK [mailto:stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 4:20 AM
> To: Mandyam, Giridhar; Dominique Hazael-Massieux
> Cc: public-media-capture@w3.org
> Subject: Re: [Bug 22594] noaccess / peerIdentity as constraints
> 
> Giri,
> 
> can you develop your thoughts a bit?
> 
> I have on the list proposed that much of the peerIdentity stuff should be moved to the WebRTC document, but if the UA would want to display a special dialogue with the gUM prompt ("the app asking for access to your camera will no be able to record the media, or be able to send to anyone else than identity-of-peer-user") it should be documented in this document I think.
> 
> Br,
> Stefan
> 
> On 2014-02-20 17:47, Mandyam, Giridhar wrote:
> > Sounds good.  I can file if you don't mind.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Giri
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dominique Hazael-Massieux [mailto:dom@w3.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 8:46 AM
> > To: Mandyam, Giridhar
> > Cc: public-media-capture@w3.org
> > Subject: Re: [Bug 22594] noaccess / peerIdentity as constraints
> >
> > Hi Giri,
> >
> > On jeu., 2014-02-20 at 16:34 +0000, Mandyam, Giridhar wrote:
> >> I apologize, but we don't think this particular bug is fixed.  QuIC's
> >> opinion is that all mention of peerIdentity should be removed from
> >> this particular document.  We will not support this document going to
> >> last call otherwise.
> >
> > The bug I had raised was specifically on the fact that peerIdentity/noaccess where not MediaStreamTrack-level constraint, which has now been fixed. I think the move of peerIdentity to the WebRTC document might deserve a separate bug for clarity sake.
> >
> > Dom
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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