- From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 12:05:12 -0700
- To: Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
- Cc: "public-media-capture@w3.org" <public-media-capture@w3.org>
This is good. The addition of label needs more work though. What do you do to distinguish an application/site as being "trusted" or not such that you can expose the label? On 21 March 2013 11:46, Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> wrote: > That was too weird - trying again, without formatting.... > > > The WebRTC GetUserMedia spec released on March 20 has this device > enumeration API on the VideoStreamTrack and AudioStreamTrack: > > ------------------------------------- > > > interface VideoStreamTrack : MediaStreamTrack { > static sequence<DOMString> getSourceIds (); > .... > }; > > Explanation: > > getSourceIds, static > Returns an array of application-unique source identifiers. This list will be > populated only with local sources whose sourceType is "camera" or > "photo-camera" [and if allowed by the user-agent, "readonly" variants of the > former two types]. The video source ids returned in the list constitute > those sources that the user agent can identify at the time the API is called > (the list can grow/shrink over time as sources may be added or removed). As > a static method, getSourceIds can be queried without instantiating any > VideoStreamTrack objects or without calling getUserMedia(). > > ISSUE 1 > Issue: This information deliberately adds to the fingerprinting surface of > the UA. However, this information will not be identifiable outside the scope > of this application and could also be obtained via other round-about > techniques using getUserMedia(). > (end quote) > > -------------------------- > > > > I suggest this is a bit limited, and we should instead offer: > > <proposal begins> > > interface MediaStreamTrack { > static sequence<SourceInfo> getSourceInfos() > } > > dictionary SourceInfo { > DOMString id; // same as “sourceid” in previous proposal > DOMString kind; // “video” or “audio” > DOMString label; // only present if authorized > VideoFacingModeEnum facing; // only for video sources > } > > with the additional text: > > If the application is authorized to get info from one or more sources, the > “label” attribute will be filled in for those sources, with exactly the same > value as one would have had if the application had done getUserMedia with a > constraint specifying that camera ID. > > <proposal ends> > > The interface is on MediaStreamTrack, which allows video and audio sources > to be retrieved in a single call, and also allows additional types of source > with no API change, if that ever becomes needed. It’s also easily extensible > to allow other kinds of information to be returned, if desired. > > For reference, here’s the description of “label” from the MediaStreamTrack > section: > > label of type DOMString, readonly > User agents may label audio and video sources (e.g., "Internal microphone" > or "External USB Webcam"). The MediaStreamTrack.label attribute must return > the label of the object’s corresponding track, if any. If the corresponding > track has or had no label, the attribute must instead return the empty > string. > > ) > > (Note - section 3 of this spec version has some discussion on when the > source is released to the application. This proposal only says that this > also releases the label to view.) > > This extension will allow: > - Untrusted applications to quickly determine whether a camera is present or > not (satisfies the “does it make sense to offer video calling” requirement) > - Trusted applications to create in-app UI that presents a sensible list of > devices for the user to choose between > - A clear definition of going from “untrusted” to “trusted” > > Note: It may make sense to have the in-chrome user permission prompt give > alternatives: > - “give access to all my cameras” > - “give access to one specific camera” > - “deny access” > It’s an UI design decision whether or not all these need to be offered; this > shouldn’t be in the spec. > > > >
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