Minutes of the W3C Rights Automation Community Group 2021-05-12

Please find the minutes of today’s meeting at Rights Automation Community Group Teleconference – 12 May 2021 (w3.org)<https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html> and pasted below.
Summary of action items

  1.  Mark to try to obtain an LEI and report back on the experience next call (hopefully)<https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#a01>
  2.  Ben to take discussion and make it a proposal to being back next meeting<https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#a02>

Summary of resolutions

  1.  Agree minutes of last meeting<https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#r01>

Rights Automation Community Group Teleconference
12 May 2021
[Agenda.]<https://w3c.github.io/market-data-odrl-profile/agendas/md-odrl-profile-agenda-2021-05-12.html> [IRC log.] <https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-md-odrl-profile-irc>
Attendees
Present
andy, ben, caspar, emily, jeremy, jo, josh, laura, mark, marko, nigel, olga, paulk
Regrets
Chris C, Ilya S, Renato
Chair
Jo
Scribe
nigelp
Contents

  1.  Admin<https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#t01>
  2.  Party Identifiers<https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#t02>
  3.  Slots at FISD<https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#t03>
  4.  Editors' Update<https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#t04>
  5.  Feedback Review<https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#t05>
  6.  AOB<https://www.w3.org/2021/05/12-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#t06>

Meeting minutes
Admin

ben: identifiers meeting action still outstanding

Resolution: Agree minutes of last meeting

Party Identifiers

joshuaCornejo: discusses need to go beyond simple URI to identify parties
… refers to diagram circulated by email
… "permID" covers basic needs of an ontology, but probably need to support multiple ontologies and some kind of heirarchy
… also looked at "LEI"; also looks promising.

jo_: need optionality on choice of scheme, and a way of specifying which was chosen, plus some kind of default
… got response from LEI Foundation. They think LEI is suitable for our needs.

ben: contract vs policy - stick to policies for now in first draft, make decisions about how to model contracts later
… party identifiers - key need at this stage is a unique, unambiguous identifier.
… LEIs are attractive as most relevant organisations are likely to use LEIs in some way internally
… LEIs do not currently support a URN syntax, but that is a surmountable problem.
… invites comments from Caspar on use of LEIs

Caspar_MacRae: party identifiers could be agreed bilaterally between contracting parties and there will be some need to support internally devised identifier schemas
… discusses possible role for "template policies"

jo_: two ideas possibly conflated: representing ids and negotiating their representation. Let's focus on the first

joshuaCornejo: refers back to email and clarifies with example using CME; will publish multiple policy templates; parties agree specific contract scope which will need to refer back to policies (and versions of policy)

jo_: looking to keep scope managable.

ben: already support "complex" identifiers

jo_: when you say "context is LEI" how does that get resolved in some way?

ben: CME globex example: use MIC and refer to relevant ISO standard

mark_bird: generating and consuming systems must have mapping logic embedded for supported identifier schemas

ben: will need to namespaces for identifier schemas

Caspar_MacRae: but don't want to be responsible for the namespace

jo_: responding to query from Mark; should be reasonably easy to get LEIs if needed.

Action: Mark to try to obtain an LEI and report back on the experience next call (hopefully)

<ben> DataBP: https://permid.org/1-5077895275


Action: Ben to take discussion and make it a proposal to being back next meeting

Slots at FISD

ben: David Anderson prefers 90 minute format
… 15 mins demo/overview
… 40 minutes panel discussion
… 30 minutes Q&A
… prefers Q&A over Zoom, not chat.
… best to use pre-recorded demos (keep to length better)
… try for 5 minute version of consent demo?
… asks JPM if they have a re-usable demo

NigelP: will check with Ilya

ben: lists confirmed panel participants. Looking for sceptical but open minded participant and exchange representation.
… also need a moderator
… 3pm UK time 24th June

Editors' Update

mark_bird: three topics need review as discussed over email.

Laura: will take Activities and Actions

Caspar: will take Parties

mark_bird: will cover Resources
… comments from others in any area definitely invited.

jo_: reiterates last point (collective responsibility)

Feedback Review

<jo_> (put back to next session)

AOB

<jo_> thanks for Scribing, Nigel

<jo_> --- meeting closed ---

@jo_ no problem.


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