RE: Suggested edits for Profile Draft

That works - I had considered suggesting adding a scope note to Distribution Service to make the link, but wasn't sure if it would weaken the definition or make it abstruse.

From: Benedict Whittam Smith <ben@deonticdata.com>
Sent: 03 June 2021 14:14
To: MacRae, Caspar [Engineering] <Caspar.MacRae@ln.email.gs.com>; public-md-odrl-profile@w3.org
Subject: Re: Suggested edits for Profile Draft

... in which case, I'd be tempted to expand the term Distribution Service to cover these cases, and to use the term in the client and prospective client definitions!





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From: MacRae, Caspar [Engineering] <Caspar.MacRae@gs.com<mailto:Caspar.MacRae@gs.com>>
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 1:55 PM
To: Benedict Whittam Smith <ben@deonticdata.com<mailto:ben@deonticdata.com>>; public-md-odrl-profile@w3.org<mailto:public-md-odrl-profile@w3.org> <public-md-odrl-profile@w3.org<mailto:public-md-odrl-profile@w3.org>>
Subject: RE: Suggested edits for Profile Draft




Hi Ben,



I've only ever seen the distinction of existing/prospective clients WRT distribution, but there are certainly cases where the data may be provided in order to evaluate another product (e.g. benchmark) - so think it needs to be the more general reference.



Best regards,

Caspar



From: Benedict Whittam Smith <ben@deonticdata.com<mailto:ben@deonticdata.com>>
Sent: 03 June 2021 12:11
To: MacRae, Caspar [Engineering] <Caspar.MacRae@ln.email.gs.com<mailto:Caspar.MacRae@ln.email.gs.com>>; public-md-odrl-profile@w3.org<mailto:public-md-odrl-profile@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Suggested edits for Profile Draft



Hi Caspar,



In your definitions of Existing and Prospective Clients, you refer to "services provided".



Could I link that to the Distribution Services term that we discussed at our last meeting and defined here: https://w3c.github.io/market-data-odrl-profile/new-standard.html#distribution-service<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__w3c.github.io_market-2Ddata-2Dodrl-2Dprofile_new-2Dstandard.html-23distribution-2Dservice&d=DwMF-g&c=7563p3e2zaQw0AB1wrFVgyagb2IE5rTZOYPxLxfZlX4&r=ICXsYhIJDNDHN-MQBUh5Brxtp_NlKYKKYQj2IEeqZOo&m=f2z2ZaZeZw3GRlJiCU3qlEDx8zgg7gDG_VNVj7sQFkw&s=rDHEJsDpCVVOP6trg9qiBfLCB6cMcc4CCiaECnbYXeU&e=>



Or is it a more general reference to "products and services"?



Ben

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From: MacRae, Caspar [Engineering] <Caspar.MacRae@gs.com<mailto:Caspar.MacRae@gs.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 12:00 PM
To: public-md-odrl-profile@w3.org<mailto:public-md-odrl-profile@w3.org> <public-md-odrl-profile@w3.org<mailto:public-md-odrl-profile@w3.org>>
Subject: Suggested edits for Profile Draft



Hi,



Not sure if I missed some contentious discussion, and understand the task is corrective not additive, but the lack of Party subtypes Existing Client and Prospective Client is irksome - their introduction would likely solve the redistribution testcases 1-4 and 10<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_w3c_market-2Ddata-2Dodrl-2Dprofile_blob_gh-2Dpages_Test-2DCases.md-23rod-2D1&d=DwMF-g&c=7563p3e2zaQw0AB1wrFVgyagb2IE5rTZOYPxLxfZlX4&r=ICXsYhIJDNDHN-MQBUh5Brxtp_NlKYKKYQj2IEeqZOo&m=f2z2ZaZeZw3GRlJiCU3qlEDx8zgg7gDG_VNVj7sQFkw&s=VkUbIi7lsLOHD9FwDRfuCetqPlgyUyvHRjK4MMa9qoo&e=>), so have added below as § 2.1.2.1.8-9 (updating § 2.1.1 to reflect).



Best regards,

Caspar





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§ 2.1 Parties



§ 2.1.1 Party Role



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§ 2.1.2.1.1 Originator



Note:    Originators may use an Administrator to manage their rights assignments and a Service Facilitator to destribute the data.    s/destribute/distribute/





§ 2.1.2.1.4 Service Facilitator



Definition: The role an external organisation plays when contracted by the Assignee to deliver a business function using the assignee"s data access rights.      s/assignee"s/assignee's/g     (global typo)





NOTE

When is this duty activated? When the Assigner intends to make an External Party with the role of Service Facilitator a recipient of the data Asset - i.e. when the recipient constraint is satisfied.



To fulfill the Duty, the subject Party of the Duty (not specified in this example) must take the Action of notifying the object Party of about the target of the Duty: the Service Facilitator. They need only do this once for the duty to be fulfilled.





§ 2.1.2.1.5 Administrator



NOTE  We can imagine a Administrator so:    s/a Administrator/an Administrator/







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Definition:


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Label:


Existing Client Party


Identifier:


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Sub-class Of:


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Disjoint with:


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Definition:


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Label:


Prospective Client Party


Identifier:


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Sub-class Of:


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Disjoint with:


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§ 2.3 Activities



Global typo in all Prov-O hyperlinks' display text;  s/Activitiy/Activity/g





§ 4.1 Duty Functions



Duty functions specify the role a Party plays in fulfilling a Duty. Only two are required: the subject who must exercise the duty"s action and the object who recieves the effect of the action.  Sequences of request-response interactions may be formed by chaining Duties where the subject and object Parties alternate.



s/duty"s/duty's/



s/recieves/receives/





4.3.1 Notify



s/See Example 1/See Example 3/





4.3.2 Report



s/See Example 2/See Example 5/





§ 4.3.4 Consent



s/Example 1/Example 3/



Also broken hyperlink for "Example 1"   s/ServiceFacilitatorNotification/#ServiceFacilitatorNotification/



§ 5.3.7 purposes



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