Minutes of the W3C Rights Automation Community Group 2020-11-11

Please find the minutes of today’s meeting at https://www.w3.org/2020/11/11-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html and pasted below.
Summary of Action Items
ACTION: Ben will take clarification of actions to the list
ACTION: MarkB to arrange for PoC Leads to document their PoC's in GitHub
ACTION: All to review doc as stands for meaning and so on
ACTION: Caspar and Atiq to review Duties
ACTION: MarkB to review Supply Chain MetaModel
ACTION: Nigel and Colleagues to review all sections

Summary of Resolutions

  1.  Accept minutes of last meeting<https://www.w3.org/2020/10/28-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#resolution01>
Many thanks
Jo

Market Data Automation Community Group Teleconference
11 Nov 2020

Agenda<https://www.w3.org/2020/10/28-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html>

Attendees
Present
jo, ben, josh, mard, markb, adam, atiq, caspar, fred_schultz, laura, nigel_phelan, phil, samantha, trisha, michelle, olga, NSE
Regrets
renato
Chair
jo
Scribe
joshuaCornejo
Contents

  *   Topics<https://www.w3.org/2020/11/11-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#agenda>
     *   Admin<https://www.w3.org/2020/11/11-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#item01>
     *   Editors' Update<https://www.w3.org/2020/11/11-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#item02>
     *   Proof of concept update<https://www.w3.org/2020/11/11-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#item03>
     *   AOB<https://www.w3.org/2020/11/11-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#item04>
  *   Summary of Action Items<https://www.w3.org/2020/11/11-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#ActionSummary>
  *   Summary of Resolutions<https://www.w3.org/2020/11/11-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#ResolutionSummary>

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<jo_> scribe: joshuaCornejo

<jo_> Agenda: https://w3c.github.io/market-data-odrl-profile/agendas/md-odrl-profile-agenda-2020-11-11.html


Admin

<jo_> Last Meeting: https://www.w3.org/2020/10/28-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html


Jo: zoom access

Ben: to get automated transcription, you have to buy at least 10 licences

Jo: seeing if we can get W3 Zoom's access, wait to see feedback

Ben: move to Teams as plan B

Jo: maybe we can try that out
... check on archived - public but not listed. So that conversations of PoC are not listed. W3 is looking into it.

Mark: we will be hearing from Atiq today, Roy maybe next session.

RESOLUTION: Accept minutes of last meeting

Jo: we've reviewed the actions, we can record that the minutes of the last meeting are accepted.

Editors' Update

Jo: item #2 updates from Ben and Mark

<ben> https://w3c.github.io/market-data-odrl-profile/md-odrl-profile.html


Ben: I will put the link to the standards document in the chat, finding myself with more time that I had previously.
... I've made much progress, writing up
... quickly take people through it and discuss next steps
... you will see big sections - supply chain with party roles, resources, sources, assets, activities and other items in terms of market data licensing
... things that market data likes to count and some other specifications
... things like asset classes and a whole lot of concepts that exist in our industry
... some concepts are much more specific on the validity of a license
... And there is another section on constraints
... critical to the validity of a license, for example timeliness of delivery, deriving data, purposes, etc
... these are all things market data licenses control
... and there is a section on time
... at this stage what we need to get right is if we got the right concepts, the right names and the right definitions
... I am going to ask and get the people to pick a section and check that we got the right concepts
... and that the definition in blue of the concepts are accurate
... and we can iterate and improve
... one section missing is on what actions

<ben> https://github.com/w3c/market-data-odrl-profile/edit/gh-pages/ActionsAndPurposes.md


Ben: we can see a number of patterns arriving
... (speaks about some specific example)

Jo: do we want to record names of people vs sections

Ben: let's put the section name in the chat

Jo: in the webex

(Logistics going on Webex for assigning sections)

<jo_> ACTION: All to review doc as stands for meaning and so on

<jo_> ACTION: Ben will take clarification of actions to the list

Jo: let us move to PoC update

Proof of concept update

Mark: Ilya gave us a high level overview during the last section, Atiq if we could hear from you but not too deep

Atiq: Unfortunately I missed Ilya's as I was on holiday

Mark: it is technical control

Atiq: it is a question of usage rights, were we see more than yes/no answers and look at ODRL in more detail.
... we are keen of leveraging the aspect of obligations and duties
... Duties ...
... to see if this is something that is achievable
... we can focus on disclaimers and attributions
... the specific scenario is redistribution
... we want to go down this path as it provides a bit more criteria
... it is a good balance for technical exploration and provides a healthy debate
... we can represent it in ODRL and validate the results we can get from the query, more than yes/no
... and we are keen to explore the workflow aspects that come at the back of the obligations
... we can have a system of disclaimers, so they can be set up at the center of the data.
... there will be a number of things that will come out at the end of this and some things will be useful feedback and discussion points
... for example at what point obligations, responsibilities and if the vendor provides the sufficient language, how and where do they provide it.
... can we flexibly express this or push to standardise it?
... we believe that automation will allow for better compliance
... that is where we are going with this, still need to work out which contract will be scoped within this.
... this side of Christmas is not realistic, but maybe go to February/March

Jo: open for questions for Atiq?

Mark: I love that the focus of this PoC is so complementary to Ilya's
... and that the focus of attribution is complex but interesting for a PoC

Jo: I was going to ask, presumably you are confident this is a good bite size PoC

Atiq: maybe the end of January is too tight, we want a bit longer time to make sure

Jo: let's keep that under review, we don't mind terribly if we slip a bit more than January.
... any other comments?

Ben: does that mean if a permission is valid or not? And you are going to be able to check with the attribution system if the duty has been fulfilled and if this permission is still valid?

Atiq: yes, (explains the mechanics of that fulfilment)

<jo_> ACTION: MarkB to arrange for PoC Leads to document their PoC's in GitHub

Jo: anymore questions for Atiq?

AOB

<jo_> Thanks to Josh for Scribing! (Again)

<jo_> --- Meeting closed ---

<jo_> ACTION: MarkB to review Supply Chain MetaModel

<jo_> ACTION: Caspar and Atiq to review Duties

<jo_> ACTION: Nigel and Colleagues to review all sections



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