Minutes of the W3C Rights Automation Community Group 2020-04-29

Please find the minutes of today’s meeting at https://www.w3.org/2020/04/29-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html and copied below.

Noting that Ben (wearing his editor hat) asks that people who have made contributions of use cases and licenses and more, re-contribute them on this list (public-md-odrl-profile@w3.org<mailto:public-md-odrl-profile@w3.org> ), he will mail separately on that point.

Noting also that attendees may not have been captured accurately. Apologies if that is the case. When joining the meeting by IRC, typing “present+ yourname” adds you as an attendee to the minutes, which are generated from IRC.

Reminder that the main bulk of WG material will be found at https://w3c.github.io/market-data-odrl-profile/ and that there is an orientation page at https://w3c.github.io/market-data-odrl-profile/orientation.html


It would seem that most people can access both github.io and github.com, which is great news. Any questions, problems or queries, with that or anything else, please contact the chairs.

Thanks
Jo
Rights Automation Community Group 2020-04-29
29 Apr 2020
Attendees
Present
wseltzer, benws, Ben, Jo, Atiq, Doug, Ilya, Jeremy, Joshua, Laura, Mark, Natasa, Phil
Regrets
Paul, K, Renato, Michelle
Chair
Ben
Scribe
Jo
Contents

  *   Topics<https://www.w3.org/2020/04/29-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#agenda>
     *   Administration<https://www.w3.org/2020/04/29-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#item01>
     *   Welcome from W3C<https://www.w3.org/2020/04/29-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#item02>
     *   Meeting Conventions and Conduct<https://www.w3.org/2020/04/29-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#item03>
     *   Status and Toolset<https://www.w3.org/2020/04/29-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#item04>
     *   AOB<https://www.w3.org/2020/04/29-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#item05>
  *   Summary of Action Items<https://www.w3.org/2020/04/29-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#ActionSummary>
  *   Summary of Resolutions<https://www.w3.org/2020/04/29-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#ResolutionSummary>

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Administration

ben: Welcome to inaugural meeting
... likely to be mainly procedural
... process are public and auditable

Ben presents self as chair

RESOLUTION: Ben will be chair
... ben presents Jo as co-chair
... Jo will be co-chair

RESOLUTION: Jo will be co-chair

Ben: presents charter https://w3c.github.io/market-data-odrl-profile/CGCharter.html


jo: suggest we straw poll if enough peple have read it

(no, not really)

<scribe> ACTION: Add agreement of charter to next meeting's agenda

ben: Objections to the suggested cadence of the meetings (every 2 weeks, 11am US/4pm UK)?

RESOLUTION: Meeting cadence is as proposed

ben: Ben to be initial editor - objections?

RESOLUTION: Ben to be the initial editor

Welcome from W3C

Ben: introduces Wendy Seltzer

Wendy: I am counsel and strategy lead at W3C ...
... very pleased to see the work beginning
... W3C voluntary consensus driven org
... work via various groups
... Community Groups are most open to invention, least defined by W3C processes
... can later bring work from CGs to formal WGs
... and put things on the "Recommendation Track" to formal standardisation
... however CGs are more free to do things as they choose
... we promote the value of consensus, there are no standards police
... for the benefit of everyone, or that they can at least live with
... chairs are responsible for ensuring decision process is fair, and consensus driven
... CGs are autonomous, but if you have questions, please feel free toreach out to W3C team

Meeting Conventions and Conduct

Ben: there is a certain level of process in support of what Wendy just said
... e.g. to join IRC so we can send links in real-time etc.

<wseltzer> scribenick: wseltzer

Jo: W3C builds the habit of being on both IRC and voice during meetings
... one participant, the scribe, works to capture actions and resolutions
... if the scribe needs time to catch up, can interrupt to say so
... other participants can use irc for conversation
... There's an introductory page for this group

<scribe-jo> https://w3c.github.io/market-data-odrl-profile/


Jo: on github ^

<scribe-jo> https://w3c.github.io/market-data-odrl-profile/orientation.html


Jo: orientation page ^

Ben: can everyone on the call reach github pages?

jo: not from behind corporate firewall, but I can reach github.io

<inserted> Jo: can you reach github.io?

<JoshuaCornejo> can reach

<Ilya> I am able to reach GitHub

phil: +1

olga: +1

mark: +1

jo: that's a reasonable sample. Sounds as though people can reach github.io
... from the group homepage, you can reach our other materials

<scribe-jo> scribenick: scribe-jo

<wseltzer> Ben: How do people navigate there?

<scribe> ACTION: Jo to provide link to the .github.io from W3C Community page

<wseltzer> [discussion of navigation to github.io pages]

(discussing if people can reach github.com too)

jo: summary is that most people can reach github.com as well as github.io

Ben: want to emphasize the importance of using IRC
... IRC is the progenitor of all modern chat systems
... easiest is possibly to use the W3C Web client linked from orientation page

Status and Toolset

ben: We have talked about providing 20 example licenses
... people have sent 20 examples
... success criterion is that we successfully translate those licenses
... would like people please to send these again to the CG mailing list
... the minutes will appear from that address
... We also need to create test cases
... can people please contribute the questions the get around rights to same mailing list
... and they can then be used as success criteria for the profile
... i.e. can we answer the questions in an automated way (successfully)
... so if you sent that before can you do it again please
... also and finally we need example use cases that are more general
... e.g. reduce audits, and they can also be used
... anticipate that we will start translating licenses and finding patterns
... we'll find lots of patterns and repeats, adding test cases etc
... then over again to next license
... any questions?
... as we specify terms and define e.g. what a payment obligation is we will fill in the specification
... which is just a skeleton at the moment
... but it will incrementally add to it
... that is the primary repository for what we do and what we will publish
... we'll eschew fancy ontology management tools
... questions?

jo: think we should note that work occurs between meetings, the meetings are just to confirm decisions
... so if the editor asks for contributions by email, please respond in a timely way

ben: I will be sending out certain key questions straight away
... products, services, venues ... how do we define underlying resources
... how does a consumer identify a resource and match it to permissions

AOB

Ben: hearing none, first meeting closed,
... looking forward to establishing a pattern of working and getting done in 6 mo

Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Add agreement of charter to next meeting's agenda
[NEW] ACTION: Jo to provide link to the .github.io from W3C Community page


Summary of Resolutions

  1.  Ben will be chair<https://www.w3.org/2020/04/29-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#resolution01>
  2.  Jo will be co-chair<https://www.w3.org/2020/04/29-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#resolution02>
  3.  Meeting cadence is as proposed<https://www.w3.org/2020/04/29-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#resolution03>
  4.  Ben to be the initial editor<https://www.w3.org/2020/04/29-md-odrl-profile-minutes.html#resolution04>
[End of minutes]




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