Re: Link to the IAAP Maturity Model

You are welcome to invite anyone to join the Task Force, but they must join the W3C – APA. To do that IAAP would need to become a paid member organization, which they aren’t interested in doing.

We don’t need to involve them. We invited them previously, they weren’t interested.

Their model is specifically for universities and smart cities. I read the link.

We need to continue our course and focus on the task at hand, updated our publication.

Samantha is in charge of certification for IAAP, by the way. James Thurston was the one responsible for the maturity model. He is now at Atos


From: Dr. Keith Newton <newtonsgroove2@gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 10:43 AM
To: Jeff Kline <jeffrey.l.kline@gmail.com>
Cc: Neha Manik Jadhav <njadhav@helixopp.com>, Angela Barker <angela.barker@ukg.com>, Stacey Swinehart <stacey.swinehart@gmail.com>, David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com>, Maturity Model TF <public-maturity@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Link to the IAAP Maturity Model
Best person with whom to start inquiry would be Samantha Evans, https://www.linkedin.com/in/samanthaspearsevans/. I'll send her a linkedin message but feel free to reach out to her :) Dr. Keith Newton
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I'll send her a linkedin message but feel free to reach out to her :)

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On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 1:40 PM Jeff Kline <jeffrey.l.kline@gmail.com<mailto:jeffrey.l.kline@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Keith,

My sediments as well.

Unfortunately, all I know is what I sent to the team, so if there are some of the IAAP folks here maybe they could inquire on the maturity of the maturity model 😊

Regards,


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From: Dr. Keith Newton <newtonsgroove2@gmail.com<mailto:newtonsgroove2@gmail.com>>
Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 12:27 PM
To: Jeff Kline <jeffrey.l.kline@gmail.com<mailto:jeffrey.l.kline@gmail.com>>
Cc: Neha Manik Jadhav <njadhav@helixopp.com<mailto:njadhav@helixopp.com>>, Angela Barker <angela.barker@ukg.com<mailto:angela.barker@ukg.com>>, Stacey Swinehart <stacey.swinehart@gmail.com<mailto:stacey.swinehart@gmail.com>>, David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com<mailto:dfazio@helixopp.com>>, Maturity Model TF <public-maturity@w3.org<mailto:public-maturity@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: Link to the IAAP Maturity Model
Jeff,

Thank you for sending this. Is this a current document or are they currently working on this?  For a maturity model, this really isn't that mature (pun unintended).

This also looks like it's based on a workplace inclusivity model and specialized in one area - employment diversity or DEI.  I don't think this is close to the W3C Model in any way that I can see.

Thoughts?

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On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 12:49 PM Jeff Kline <jeffrey.l.kline@gmail.com<mailto:jeffrey.l.kline@gmail.com>> wrote:
The link worked for me today, so here it is.<https://shared.outlook.inky.com/link?domain=www.accessibilityassociation.org&t=h.eJxFzE0OgjAQQOGrkK4NBToIZYXRjQsOUcqAjcCQtog_8e7auHD78vK92GpHVkXs4v3iKs63bYuV1uicac1o_EM5R9oob2iOyQ7coqPVauSNauh0PhzZLmLXQMzov0PvSxAACe969TRUX3A0d1qWWNPES5miynQrEgkgyiwtoNzrts2FhAIz4GmR5oUEKWUsAow_ePM0u8ES3TCrh0mZMXBh6MLwL-8PbQBCTA.MEUCIHf2vMP58UCsIWM4D8vXOgoPWgpZnXHLnt6zaFFfjuvoAiEA88PK2Zy5fK0-SMm67Rlbyb8K1CKJhLAP-VDFzcZ2sKo> Not sure if this is all there is or if there is detail behind it.

Regards,


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From: Neha Manik Jadhav <njadhav@helixopp.com<mailto:njadhav@helixopp.com>>
Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2024 at 11:04 AM
To: Angela Barker <angela.barker@ukg.com<mailto:angela.barker@ukg.com>>, Stacey Swinehart <stacey.swinehart@gmail.com<mailto:stacey.swinehart@gmail.com>>, David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com<mailto:dfazio@helixopp.com>>
Cc: Maturity Model TF <public-maturity@w3.org<mailto:public-maturity@w3.org>>
Subject: Minutes Re: [External Origin] Re: [Maturity] Model Task Force 05-15-24 Meeting Agenda
Hi all,

Please find the minutes for the meeting https://www.w3.org/2024/05/15-maturity-minutes.html<https://shared.outlook.inky.com/link?domain=www.w3.org&t=h.eJxFjcsOgyAUBX_FsK4gcK3iyl9BRSUVMXgtfaT_XkkX3Z7MmXmTIyykyciMuO0NYzFGGiX1YWKiEMCKkvEydxqPYPGZO7seaHY6o1vIJSO39F0NnvyINUiAgg2jflnfzmaxD79ttPeO1YobLfpOFgpA1oJXUF_7riulgsqcHV7xslKglKIyic1PHNGv-xS8vxvRTk7bJekSMCTgv3y-06g9kQ.MEYCIQDouAKkPTItqgHLhxF1qNnRJjEiWURDnhSkl2ElJN1WpgIhANVTONVLLMo7VJ0mQsxr57DDVEyy9nq1oWkZ0ssWHGhI>
I am also attaching IAAP Maturity Model document.

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From: Angela Barker <angela.barker@ukg.com<mailto:angela.barker@ukg.com>>
Date: Wednesday, 15 May 2024 at 8:11 PM
To: Stacey Swinehart <stacey.swinehart@gmail.com<mailto:stacey.swinehart@gmail.com>>, David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com<mailto:dfazio@helixopp.com>>
Cc: Maturity Model TF <public-maturity@w3.org<mailto:public-maturity@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: [External Origin] Re: [Maturity] Model Task Force 05-15-24 Meeting Agenda

Hi everyone,

I may be a few minutes late but should be there today.

Thanks,
Angela

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From: Stacey Swinehart <stacey.swinehart@gmail.com<mailto:stacey.swinehart@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2024 6:56:44 AM
To: David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com<mailto:dfazio@helixopp.com>>
Cc: Maturity Model TF <public-maturity@w3.org<mailto:public-maturity@w3.org>>
Subject: [External Origin] Re: [Maturity] Model Task Force 05-15-24 Meeting Agenda

Hi,
I have a conflict for the first half, but should be able to join for the second half.

Stacey

sent from my phone

On Wed, May 15, 2024, 12:54 AM David Fazio <dfazio@helixopp.com<mailto:dfazio@helixopp.com>> wrote:

Here are the Minutes from our last meeting:



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Email Archive:



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What:  Maturity Model Weekly Teleconference



When: Wednesday 15 May 2024



11:00 AM        Boston -- U.S. Eastern  Time            (EDT: UTC -4:00)



Corresponding times in other time zones are:



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Where:  Zoom Teleconference Service



Please access Zoom via the link below:



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Agenda



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Agenda+ Maturity Model Scoring Subgroup Update





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