Re: [math-on-web] a11y TF meeting minutes, 2017/04/10

Hi everybody,

After reading the minutes, let me comment on some of the subjects.

Volker says that “some people are opposed to aria-labels”. This is consistent with the fact that AT reads the text and ignores the aria-labels. It is also connected with the idea that some people don’t like accessible specific content. 

The role=math has its faults but does some of the job. I guess that it was a compromise reached time ago in order to use the aria-label (which seems to confirm what Volker said). If deprecated, an alternative should be provided. Maybe another role?

I do not understand the roledescription solution. Could someone rephrase it?

Dani 

> On 12 Apr 2017, at 18:58, Peter Krautzberger <peter.krautzberger@mathjax.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> below are the minutes from the a11y task force meeting this week.
> 
> Best,
> Peter.
> 
> # math on web CG -- a11y TF 
> 
> * Updates.
>   * Peter: continued work on deep labels 
>     * more examples
>     * more focused on SVG but should 
>     * more recordings by Thursday, expect to confirm the validity
>     * one problem: tables mathJax svg vs commonthml
>       * ARIA 1.1 table-related roles should help
>   * Peter: also got an update from Jason Meryll
>     * where he described their work
>     * ACTION: ask Jason to make it public
>       * then reference on website
>   * Volker: from last CG meeting: hacked around with speech API
>     * prosidy support via SSML in speech synthesis API 
>     * several tests 
>     * no SSML support 
>     * though VoiceOer had some specialized markup (see minutes)
>     * working on next few examples 
> * Peter: role=math
>   * not much feedback from CG outside of a11y TF - which may have been obvious
>   * Volker: at w4a a11y hackathon, nobody even knew the role existed 
>   * Peter: fun fact: James Craig mentioned that the role was derived from image role (which makes sense given the time)
>   * Peter: from MathJax end, we could delay until we get to working on turning deep labels into something for production
>   * Peter: given Daniel's comments from last TF meeting, maybe the groups recommendation should be to deprecate role=math.
>   * ACTION: ask CG for a recommendation
>     * point out that there are features that would help but that role-math serves no purpose
> * Volker: some people are opposed to aria-labels
> * Peter: new roles in ARIA 1.1 
>   * e.g., table related roles 
>   * e.g., roledescription
>     * Kevin: could be used to specify role='Math'
>       * Peter: right, argument to say that role is no longer necessary
>         * but also reversely: role='math' with roledescription='physisc' could argue "against" Daniel's concern. 
> * Volker: will post some examples