Re: As a cyborg...

út 17. 12. 2024 v 22:07 odesílatel Ted Thibodeau Jr <
tthibodeau@openlinksw.com> napsal:

> On Dec 17, 2024, at 12:16 PM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> út 17. 12. 2024 v 17:49 odesílatel Sarven Capadisli <info@csarven.ca>
> napsal:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've noticed that a significant number of use cases are framed as "as a
>> user" with little to no detail about the actors involved.
>>
>> I find "user" to be overly vague for use cases or at the very least too
>> obvious given common alternative is software (or hardware, cyborgs, etc.).
>>
>> I suggest we take greater care in describing the actors so that the
>> requirements derived from the use cases more accurately reflect what is
>> actually needed, for whom, and in what context.
>>
>> The focus should be on actor diversity with variations in needs,
>> capabilities, and aspirations.
>>
>
> "Agent" might work here—it's a parent class of FOAF's *Person* and avoids
> unnecessary complexity like "cyborgs." While "user" can be vague, it’s
> often useful for keeping things simple and moving forward, especially in a
> group that’s already started late.
>
>
>
> I think the overall issue would benefit from further consideration.
>
> "As a cyborg" doesn't tell me what *kind* of cyborg — are you primarily a
> biological entity with mechanical subcomponents (e.g., screws in your
> skeleton, an ethernet port into your brain, a programmable pacemaker, a
> programmable pacemaker with defibrillator, etc.) or primarily a mechanical
> entity with biological subcomponents (to be specified later)?
>
> I think `As a foaf:Agent...` is much too broad for what these statements
> are supposed to communicate. It's certainly much broader than the original
> "as a user", not more precise (which is the direction I think you were
> trying to suggest, Melvin?).
>

Not quite—I’m suggesting the opposite. FOAF agents already cover the
broader scope, so I think “as a user…” works fine for now. If others want
to expand their use cases, that’s fine, but let’s stay practical and avoid
drifting into philosophy to keep on track.

foaf:Agent *includes* cyborgs, humans using browsers (perhaps the most
> common meaning of either "agent" or "user"), browsers themselves,
> autonomous agents (not to be redundant), pets, and various other subclasses.
>
> I think `As a User...` is a fine starting point. It would likely be better
> to refine it in some way(s) — e.g., `User of a Web Browser...` or
> `User of a Breadmaker...` or `User of a Threaded-Conversation-Manager...`,
> etc.
>
> Be seeing you,
>
> Ted
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