- From: Jim Allan <jimallan@tsbvi.edu>
- Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 15:41:10 -0500
- To: public-low-vision-comments@w3.org, fischer@dias.de
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Thank you for the comments. The Low Vision Task Force responses are inline below, prefaced with LVTF: From: Detlev Fischer <fischer@dias.de <fischer@dias.de?Subject=Re%3A%20comment%20on%20Accessibility%20Requirements%20for%20People%20with%20Low%20Vision%20ed.%20%20draft%2016%20March%202016&In-Reply-To=%3C56FD2C56.8020602%40dias.de%3E&References=%3C56FD2C56.8020602%40dias.de%3E>>Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 15:55:34 +0200To: public-low-vision-comments@w3.org <public-low-vision-comments@w3.org?Subject=Re%3A%20comment%20on%20Accessibility%20Requirements%20for%20People%20with%20Low%20Vision%20ed.%20%20draft%2016%20March%202016&In-Reply-To=%3C56FD2C56.8020602%40dias.de%3E&References=%3C56FD2C56.8020602%40dias.de%3E>Message-ID: <56FD2C56.8020602@dias.de> I think overall this is a very good and clear text! ------------- Editorial comments ------------- Typo and expressions: 3. User Needs "User needs varying widely across people who have low vision" should probably be: "User needs vary widely across people who have low vision" LVTF: fixed "for example, when they are more fatigued" to be fatigued seems odd - when they experience more fatigue"? ...but then I am not a native speaker LVTF: fatigued is appropriate ------------- Substantial comments ------------- Scope When I read "User Need - Brightness: Users can set the overall brightness of a display", I wondered whether this document and requirements are written with the intent to become (part of) a WCAG extension - because display brightness is certainly not something web authors can influence. LVTF: While the task force is part of WCAG (now AG), we focused on the USER need without regard to specific guidelines. Contrast " User Need - Contrast: Users can set the background color and the text color from the full color spectrum." Would it be useful to include the option of setting the colour of links / interactive text? These may not be discernable if their colour cannot be adapted to chosen bg colour, LVTF: document updated Issue 50 https://github.com/w3c/low-vision-a11y-tf/issues/50 "User Need - Text Size: Users can change the text size (font size) of all text, without zooming the entire interface." Reg. "all": At least in mobile scenarios, this is often difficult without breaking the layout, e.g. when a horizontal menu that fits into the screen width would have to wrap, moving all content down or worse, creating overlaps. I think there is a trade-off, and many grid-based mobile app layouts will have a hard time accommodating incremental test-only resize. Some platforms (BBOS 10) had "solved" the problem (with BB, on the hub) by using ellipses and truncate text content that does not fit, which also creates a problem. It can be acceptable or not, depending on content and the amount of truncation. One option may be to focus the requirement on _text content_ and have an exception for stable positioned text controls. So in a mail app, the requirement would apply for mail title and body text, new text in replies, etc., but not for controls (send, save, back, cancel, etc) The argument for that would be that users learn to expect these as quasi-permanent control features of an app at predictable positions, so there is actually less need to read controls. Zoom might be used for familiarisation with those controls, after that the advantages of not increasing text size of controls might outweigh the disadvantages of a changing layout through reflows. Just food for thought, though... LVTF: thank you for this. "Users can change the font face (also called font family or typeface) of all text" "Users can change the text style (underline, italic, bold) of blocks of text." Again, my context is mobile use, and the issue is related to the above - some fonts are wider so on controls they might either lead to cut-off text or wrapping and displacement of controls. Similar exception? LVTF: this is addressed by 3.7.1 Seeing All Interface Elements <http://w3c.github.io/low-vision-a11y-tf/requirements.html#seeing-all-interface-elements> One particular thing that I found missing is the ability to customise grids and leading lines. In our tests with low vision users, we often had the issue that light gey grids weren't perceived and items not allocated accordingly. Say, in a Samsung calendar grid, the salient info can easily be allocated to the wrong day (see Fig 10 inhttp://www.incobs.de/tests/items/tablet-tests-mit-sehbehinderten-nutzern-gebrauchstauglichkeit.html ) A similar issue is controls that have a large offset from the label. Moving the visible section (e.g. on a mobile device) to bring related control or label in view is much harder if there is no visible guiding line helping in making the link (e.g. (on Windows Mobile). Web / App developers may be required to ensure 4.5:1 contrast of leading lines / grids where these aid perception/navigation (this could presumably also be a system-level setting where contrast of grids and dividing / leading lines can be increased). LVTF: this is covered in 3.6.2 Proximity of Related Information <http://w3c.github.io/low-vision-a11y-tf/requirements.html#proximity-of-related-information> and 3.1.3 was updated to include this information see Issue 54 https://github.com/w3c/low-vision-a11y-tf/issues/54 So much for now! Best, Detlev (mobile accessibility task force) -- Jim Allan, Accessibility Coordinator Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired 1100 W. 45th St., Austin, Texas 78756 voice 512.206.9315 <(512)%20206-9315> fax: 512.206.9264 <(512)%20206-9264> http://www.tsbvi.edu/ "We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." McLuhan, 1964
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