RE: New Wiki page with SC text proposals to combine issues 79, 78, and 74

Alistair,

Ø  I guess you would have to wheedle text-only resizing in to somehow fail sites according to 1.4.4?

No. The issue happens with normal browser zoom – I am using chrome on Wndows.


Ø  (I hadn’t thought this was controversial, as Jared pointed it out a while ago [1]).
I’m sorry – but when you live with this on a daily basis it becomes more than an academic discussion.

I’m not judging/picking on any of these pages – just providing them as evidence of an issue.

Keep in mind I use low resolution like 1024x768 and even 800x600 – so some of the issues I run into may be encountered at a different zoom level for me.  Also keep in mind that these example I found in 5 minutes.  I could find more/better ones that might trigger at different zoom levels.

Online presentations includes collaboration tools have an issues where zooming in actually causes some content to get smaller!
http://www.slidesnack.com/templates-examples/online-presentation-examples#1


One example of snap scrolling where the text is cut off but you can’t scroll to it.
http://guidobouman.github.io/jquery-panelsnap/


Example where content is off the right edge but there is no horizontal scrollbar.
https://css-tricks.com/examples/ScrollingSidebar/


Another example is floating fixed potion content.
http://www.w3schools.com/jquerymobile/tryit.asp?filename=tryjqmob_toolbars_fixed


Header text overlaps content
https://css-tricks.com/persistent-headers/


Jonathan

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From: Alastair Campbell [mailto:acampbell@nomensa.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 10:35 AM
To: public-low-vision-a11y-tf; GLWAI Guidelines WG org
Subject: Re: New Wiki page with SC text proposals to combine issues 79, 78, and 74


> On this list we’ve had this discussion many times that every site does not pass SC 1.4.4 – at least without taking drastic measures such as turning off CSS.  There are many ways to break 1.4.4 with floating fixed position content, snap to scrolling, use of overflow, etc.

I must have missed those (pre-2014 when I joined?), but with browser zoom becoming the default across browsers since about 2009, “text can be resized up to 200%” with browser zoom, so on the face of it *almost* every site passes by default. (I hadn’t thought this was controversial, as Jared pointed it out a while ago [1]).

I guess you would have to wheedle text-only resizing in to somehow fail sites according to 1.4.4?

Anyway, we agree on the aim, so presumably you’re happy that we’re aiming for zoom+reflow up to 400%?

Cheers,

-Alastair

1] https://alastairc.ac/2013/08/browser-zoom-great-for-accessibility/#comment-165794