RE: Combine 79, 78, and 74 SCs? (was Re: Mechanism Disclaimer)

+1

 

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Subject: Re: Combine 79, 78, and 74 SCs? (was Re: Mechanism Disclaimer)

 

+1 with removal of "those". Not needed. 😀


On Jan 22, 2017, at 7:23 PM, David MacDonald <david100@sympatico.ca <mailto:david100@sympatico.ca> > wrote:

A little tweak so that its not an all or nothing SC that allows authors to ignore it if the Browser doesn't allow ALL those modifications...

 

For those web technologies that allow user agents to change *any or all* of the following: 

- foreground and background colors, 

- font family​, 

- spacing between characters, words, lines, or paragraphs, 

nothing is done in the content to prevent these modifications. 




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On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL <ryladog@gmail.com <mailto:ryladog@gmail.com> > wrote:

+1. I like it!

 

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Subject: Re: Combine 79, 78, and 74 SCs? (was Re: Mechanism Disclaimer)

 

I think it's getting better... this seems the easiest to understand 

 

For those web technologies that allow user agents to change the foreground and background colors, font family​, ​or the spacing between characters, words, lines, or paragraphs, nothing is done in the content to prevent these modifications. 

 

 

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 2:41 PM Gregg C Vanderheiden <greggvan@umd.edu <mailto:greggvan@umd.edu> > wrote:

 

On Jan 22, 2017, at 2:26 PM, White, Jason J <jjwhite@ets.org <mailto:jjwhite@ets.org> > wrote:

 

Features of the technologies relied upon by the content are not used in a way that would restrict the ability, if any, of user agents to change foreground and background colors, font family​, ​or the spacing between characters, words, lines, or paragraphs

 

 

I think this is the best of the lot — but it still is hard to interpret if you don’t know in advance what it is trying to get at -  AND why it is written with so many clauses…. 

 

 

Here is an explanation (as far as I understand it) for what we are saying and why. 

 

Not all technologies have a way for users to change the foreground and background colors, font family​, ​or the spacing between characters, words, lines, or paragraphs.  But for those that do, such as HTML for text content, the Author should not use features in a way that would prevent these modifications. 

 

Hmmmm

 

how about.

aaFor those web technologies that allow user agents to change the foreground and background colors, font family​, ​or the spacing between characters, words, lines, or paragraphs, nothing is done in the content to prevent these modifications. 

 

OR 

Web content technologies are not used in a way that would prevent users from changing the foreground and background colors, font family​, ​or the spacing between characters, words, lines, or paragraphs, where the technologies used can allow such changes. 

 

 

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