Low Vision Task Force Meeting Minutes December 9, 2015

Hello everyone,

Minutes from the today's teleconference can be accessed as hypertext at:

http://www.w3.org/2015/12/09-lvtf-minutes.html

and as plain text following this announcement --  please report any
errors, omissions, clarifications, mis-attributions, and the like by
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Thanks.

Kindest Regards,
Laura

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09 Dec 2015

See also: IRC log
Attendees

Present
    jim, shawn, AWK, John, wayne, Laura, Katie, alan
Regrets
    Andrew
Chair
    Jim
Scribe
    Laura

Contents

    Topics
        Ontology
        Review Perceptual Area of Overview
        review of Clarity in overview
    Summary of Action Items
    Summary of Resolutions

<AWK> +AWK

<Wayne> +wayne

<JohnRochford> I love awards

<Wayne> how do I dial in or use webex. I have been trying for 15
minutes and I don't want to miss this meeting.

<shawn> s/how do I dial in or use webex. I have been trying for 15
minutes and I don't want to miss this meeting. /

<Ryladog> trying to connect audio

<Wayne> could you dial me.

<Alan_Smith> Just joining in on irc. There are two different phone
number acccess codes in last meeting invite and they both do not work

<Wayne> Wayne 562-256-4458

<Wayne> No 562 493 8210, I'm flustered

<Wayne> I hung up by accident.

<Alan_Smith> updating my calendar entry and downloading webex as this
is first time I got in on new tablet.

<Ryladog> W3C number +1-617-324-0000 is "not in service"?

<shawn> katie - see my e-mail with passcode correction

<Ryladog> ok

<Ryladog> thanks

<shawn> meeting code correction

<Ryladog> Yes I am on that one but the audio does not work and the W3C
call in number is out of service

<Alan_Smith> ok, what is correct phone number to dial in on.

<shawn> +alan

<Ryladog> Im in, user error, I was using the old W3C number

<scribe> Scribe: Laura
Ontology

<allanj> https://github.com/w3c/low-vision-a11y-tf/issues/3

Wayne: Table from Texas School is inreresting.
... Observation functional limits come in clusters.
... Documenting how things work together. Completed functional limits.

<shawn> fyi http://www.tsbvi.edu/eye-conditions

Wayne: could prepare a table.

<allanj> ontology diagram -
http://www.nosetothepage.org/WCAG/LVTF/Ontology/images/TopER.png

<allanj> +1 to table

Wayne: We want to look at functional limits not the medical model.
... tracked Macular Degeneration
... Main barriers: Legibility, readability, Layout and Viewport Capacity
... interested in pursuing further
... has taken a lot of time.

<allanj> john: ontology apply to mobile and non-mobile

John: Does it apply to mobile and non mobile?

wayne: yes and no
... same barriers in multiple ways.

John: Could you explain way finding?

Wayne: getting around the screen.
... we could change the term for location proximity issues

Shawn: impressed
... thinking about the terminology

<JohnRochford> Correction: John knows what wayfinding is, but wanted
to know how Wayne was relating it to the ontology. Wayne explained he
is using Wayfinding as an analogy.

Shawn: Regarding table, Can we use first 2 columns - and change the
last column to user interface or such?

Wayne: yes. That is the goal.

<allanj> +1 to changing third column on
http://www.tsbvi.edu/eye-conditions, IT considerations or Information
Access considerations

Wayne: Will put updates out there.
... 90 percent functional limits.
... Certain clusters occur repeatedly.
... Will work on table.

Jim: that would be great.

<allanj> close item 5

<allanj> close item 6

<shawn> ACTION: shawn look at categories in Wayne's ontology with what
we have so far [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2015/12/09-lvtf-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-14 - Look at categories in wayne's ontology
with what we have so far [on Shawn Henry - due 2015-12-16].
Review Perceptual Area of Overview

<allanj> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Overview_of_Low_Vision#Perceptual_Area_.28Field_Loss.29

Jim: likes the concept of Perceptual Area
... Pictures are useful to illustrate
... 1 question on of field loss and size limitations.

Wayne: think we need both.

<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to say zoom & large text results in smaller
amount of info..

Wayne: Wayne: 2 different kinds of accommodations.

Shawn: More than scrolling left or right.

<allanj> shawn: no field loss, but low acuity, then increase text
size, then user has smaller viewport even if all text wraps. still
have smaller viewport

Shawn: Issues can persist even with scrolling.

Wayne: under visual accuracy is limited content
... Perceptual areas does occur with tunnel vision.

<allanj> wayne: add restricted viewport to clarity section
review of Clarity in overview

<allanj> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Overview_of_Low_Vision#Clarity_.28Visual_acuity.29

Jim: I worked on this section. Came out late last night.
... Low vision is a continuum.

Wayne: This is good.

<allanj> ACTION: jim to add para to Clarity expanding magnification
reduces perceptual area [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2015/12/09-lvtf-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-15 - Add para to clarity expanding
magnification reduces perceptual area [on Jim Allan - due 2015-12-16].

<allanj> inverse square relationship, as magnification goes up,
perceptual area is reduced

<shawn> I suggest that we do include info on legibility vs.
readability -- I have some write up on that I'll stick in...

<shawn> good point, Jim!

Jim: Functional disease has nothing to do with your numbers.
... may want to bring that out here.
... functioning is separate and apart.

<shawn> thanks for scribing, Laura!

<allanj> visual functioning is different from disease, and acuity numbers
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: jim to add para to Clarity expanding magnification
reduces perceptual area [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2015/12/09-lvtf-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: shawn look at categories in Wayne's ontology with what
we have so far [recorded in
http://www.w3.org/2015/12/09-lvtf-minutes.html#action01]


-- 
Laura L. Carlson

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