- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:37:12 -0500
- To: public-lod@w3.org
- Message-ID: <5643DF38.2000009@openlinksw.com>
On 11/11/15 3:49 PM, Ruben Verborgh wrote: > Hi Kingsley, > > Some valid points. Two quick remarks: > >>> For me, the Semantic Web vision has always been about clients. >> I think the "Semantic Web" has always been about "The Web" (clients and >> servers) :) > Of course—but the emphasis in the community has mostly been on servers, > whereas the SemWeb vision started from agents (clients) that would do things (using those servers). > Now, the Semantic Web is mostly a server thing, which the Google/CSE example also shows. Okay, I certainly agree with that observation. Too much emphasis on servers and large datasets has starved the crucial need for collaboration on the client side. Areas of starvation include: 1. Bindings various UI/UX frameworks to data access controls capable of handling JSON-LD, Turtle, RDFa etc.. 2. Constructing sophisticated data access controls that simplify Linked Data exploitation by client-centric developers. Collaboration taking shape on the Javascript front re. rdflib.js, rdfstore.js, SoLID, and RWW in general etc.. are great examples of movement in the right areas (IMHO). > >>> At the moment, consuming seems only within reach of the big players, >>> who have the capacity to do it otherwise anyway. >> No, you can craft a CSE yourself right now and triangulate searches >> scoped to specific entity types. > Do you mean making a CSE through the Google interface? Google offers CSEs as a kind of service. If you leave said service with Google trimmings there's no cost. If you seek to remove Google trimmings then they charge a fee. Either way, that's fair enough in my eyes. > But then I'm actually querying the Google servers, not the Web… Google is a major Web hub, via CSEs you can find pathways to other places on the Web. What useful about these CSEs is that they return a boatload of documents that include RDF based structured data [1]. > Then intelligence is with a centralized system, not between clients and servers. Google is just one of many hubs from which RDF documents can be discovered and access. > Not yet the Semantic Web for me. I the "Semantic" and "Web" components of the meme breakdown as follows, in my experience: 1. Semantic -- structured data endowed with machine- and human-readable relationship type semantics. 2. Web -- hyperlinks functioning dually as mechanism for entity denotation and connotation (i.e., names resolve to RDF Language based descriptor documents). > > Best, > > Ruben > -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Founder & CEO OpenLink Software Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com Personal Weblog 1: http://kidehen.blogspot.com Personal Weblog 2: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen Twitter Profile: https://twitter.com/kidehen Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen Personal WebID: http://kingsley.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this
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