- From: <mfhepp@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 11:15:33 +0200
- To: John Flynn <jflynn12@verizon.net>
- Cc: W3C Web Schemas Task Force <public-vocabs@w3.org>, "schema.org Mailing List" <public-schemaorg@w3.org>, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>, public-lod@w3.org
John: Thanks - quick comments: 1. As for an upper ontology: The work of the CG is currently focused on extending schema.org by automotive concepts. Schema.org provides the common abstractions. 2. As for other types of vehicles: Our work (and the initial proposal from 2014, documented at http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Vehicles), included types for bikes etc., but following feedback from the schema.org stakeholders, we removed such. As far as I can see, our approach should be compatible with related extensions for bikes, boats, planes, and space-ships, but such is outside the scope of the CG for the moment. 3. This is not at all a "research" initiative, whatever that means. Even GoodRelations has never had such narrow a focus. " approach it > as a business process where the investment in the development of the > Automotive Ontology is directly related to the potential for increased > profit within the automobile user community. This will provide incentive for > the large and wealthy automotive industry to support the development, > maintenance and acceptance of the Automotive Ontology. I think that the ability to expose information about vehicles to the digital devices that potential customers use for understanding your value proposition is such a tangible incentive, be it as short-term as SEO, or longer-term. Best wishes Martin ----------------------------------- martin hepp http://www.heppnetz.de mhepp@computer.org @mfhepp > On 10 May 2015, at 16:42, John Flynn <jflynn12@verizon.net> wrote: > > Martin, > > It is very encouraging to see this initiative to create a "standard" or > reference ontology to address a specific domain of wide interest. Hopefully, > the Automotive Ontology will become a template for standard ontologies > addressing other domains of interest. If so, consideration might be given to > including a limited upper ontology to address the concepts in the Automotive > Ontology that are likely to be common concepts employed by many other > domains of interest, such as time, space, geography, etc. This would allow > future domain ontologies to more smoothly interact with the Automotive > Ontology. Also, consideration might be given to including a "mid level" > component to the Automotive Ontology that might be called the Vehicle > Ontology. This would address the concepts that are universal to all vehicles > and would facilitate the future development of related ontologies, such as > the Motorcycle Ontology, Boat Ontology, Airplane Ontology, etc. Another > suggestion is to give significant upfront consideration to the business > model for the Automotive Ontology. Rather that addressing this effort as > another research initiative within the Semantic Web community, approach it > as a business process where the investment in the development of the > Automotive Ontology is directly related to the potential for increased > profit within the automobile user community. This will provide incentive for > the large and wealthy automotive industry to support the development, > maintenance and acceptance of the Automotive Ontology. > > Best of luck, > > John Flynn > http://semanticsimulations.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: mfhepp@gmail.com [mailto:mfhepp@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 1:53 AM > To: W3C Web Schemas Task Force; schema.org Mailing List; Semantic Web; > public-lod@w3.org > Subject: W3C Automotive Ontology Community Group > > (sorry for cross-posting, I think this is needed in this case) > > Dear all: > > I am happy to announce the start of the new W3C Automotive Ontology > Community Group. > > Please join us at > > https://www.w3.org/community/gao/ > > In this group, we want to advance the use of shared conceptual structures in > the form of Web ontologies for better data interoperability in the > automotive industry, and this at Web scale. > > In particular, we want to develop > > 1. extension proposals for schema.org so that automotive information can be > better understood by search engines > > and > > 2. OWL Web ontologies for the automotive industry. > > Also, we want to provide a forum for bringing together researchers and > practitioners who are working on advancing the field. > > This is meant as a more sustainable form of the previously informal > Automotive Ontology Working Group at > > http://www.automotive-ontology.org/ > > We will gradually integrate both activities. > > If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. > > Best wishes > > Martin > > > PS: In order to join the group, you will need a W3C account, which you can > obtain freely. W3C Membership is not required to join a Community Group. > > ----------------------------------- > martin hepp http://www.heppnetz.de > mhepp@computer.org @mfhepp > > > > > > > > >
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