- From: Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 15:50:33 -0500
- To: "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>
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>Brent, > >Pasting my reply to Manu (with some editing) here, as I think its important: > >Manu, > >It is misleading (albeit inadvertent in regards to your post above) to >infer that Linked Data isn't already the core of the Web. The absolute >fact of the matter is that Linked Data has been the core of the Web >since it was an idea [1][2]. > >The Web doesn't work at all if HTTP URIs aren't names for: > >[1] What exists on the Web >[2] What exists, period. > >We just have the misfortune of poor communications mucking up proper >comprehension of AWWW. For example, RDF should have been presented to >the world as an effort by the W3C to standardize an existing aspect of >the Web i.e., the ability to leverage HTTP URIs as mechanisms for: > >1. entity identification & naming >2. entity description using sentences or statements -- where (as is the >case re., natural language) a sentence or statement is comprised of a >subject, predicate, and object. > >Instead, we ended up with an incomprehensible, indefensible, and at best >draconian narrative that has forever tainted the letters "R-D-F" . And >to compount matters, "HttpRange-14" has become censorship tool (based on >its ridiculous history), that blurs fixing this horrible state of affairs.> > >Links: > >[1] http://bit.ly/10Y9FL1 -- Evidence that Linked Data was always at the >core of the Web (excuse some instability on my personal data space >instance, at this point in time, should you encounter issues looking up >the document identified by this HTTP URI) > >[2] >http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2014/03/world-wide-web-25-years-later.html <http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2014/03/world-wide-web-25-years-later.html> >-- World Wide Web, 25 years later > >[3] >http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/04/b4/79/04b4794ccf2b6fd14ed3c822be26382f.jpg <http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/04/b4/79/04b4794ccf2b6fd14ed3c822be26382f.jpg> >-- Illustrating identification (naming) on the Web (re., things that >exist on or off the Web medium) . > >-- > >-- >Regards, > >Kingsley Idehen >Founder & CEO >OpenLink Software >Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com >Personal Weblog 1: http://kidehen.blogspot.com >Personal Weblog 2: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen >Twitter Profile: https://twitter.com/kidehen >Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about >LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen >Personal WebID: http://kingsley.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this Kingsley, Thanks for linking to your blog. I found it useful that you broke things up into a Linked Document Network, Linked Data Network, Linked Open Data, and Semantic Linked Open Data. You gave it a names, which made it easier to deal with. I hope to someday spend a few minutes talking to you and Tim Berners-Lee. Basically go to one of those big WWW conferences. -Brent -Brent Shambaugh Website: bshambaugh.org On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com> wrote: > Manu Sporny's post titled "Building Linked Data into the Core of the Web" > [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments/2014Sep/0063.html > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments/2014Sep/0063.html>] > led to the question: > is linked data and semantic web tech useful? I think so. I can only speak > from my own perspective and experience. > > I am not sure what to call it: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_production > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_manufacturing > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commons-based_peer_production > > But I produced a website wire frame: > http://bshambaugh.org/eispp3.pdf > > With the following main components described by the following resources: > > natural language query box gives documents and entities from ontologies > (MFernandez_thesis.pdf) > [ > http://www.jabenitez.com/personal/MASTER/TFM/COMPLETO/ESTADO%20DEL%20ARTE%20BORRADOR/FUENTES/thesis_MiriamFernandez.pdf > ] > > entities are linked to ontologies...ontologies may be queried using their > structure with OB in > (EISPP_OB.pdf) with (paper3.pdf) > [http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-565/paper3.pdf] > > ontologies may also be queried with SPARQL ( > http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-query/) or SQWRL > (owled2009_submission_42.pdf [for questions about particular numbers]) > {for looking at value > networks, bartering systems, etc,} > [http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-529/owled2009_submission_42.pdf] > > Protege may be loaded from the protege button ( > http://protege.stanford.edu/) > once structured data is loaded from querying an ontology, or performing a > SQWRL, or a SPARQL > query... > [http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/wiki/WebProtege] > > Views may include the object process methodology (Dori.pdf and > ER2003PT1Dori.pdf) > [ > http://esml.iem.technion.ac.il/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/SWDB-2003Dori-OPM-Semantic-Web.pdf > ] > [http://www.er.byu.edu/er2003/slides/ER2003PT1Dori.pdf] > > A standard node-edge graph (http://www.w3.org/2001/11/IsaViz/). > > a ranked list (http://lucene.apache.org/core/) with ontologies > (MFernandez_thesis.pdf) > facets for navigation of information (ch 2 of thesis_hollenbach.pdf) .... > with hierarchies in ontologies > [http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2010/rdf-widgets/thesis.pdf] > > ...lists of ontologies...etc on the right hand panel in eispp3.pdf > > fresnel lenses for filtering out unwanted information (fresnel.pdf) > [http://iswc2006.semanticweb.org/items/Bizer2006kl.pdf] > > Applications are ordered according to the Simantics concept (simantics.org > , > Simantics_Presentation_17_compressed.pdf) > [ > https://www.simantics.org/simantics/documents/Simantics_Presentation_17_compressed.pdf > ] > > > They use ISO15926 for integration ( > https://www.posccaesar.org/wiki/ISO15926). An impressive > example is the process plant example > (FinnishOpenFOAMUsersDay2010_GayerVTT.pdf) > [ > http://static.squarespace.com/static/51bec4d2e4b0d7c68c769459/51bec58ee4b084d49489bb8d/51bec598e4b084d49489bc76/1371456920022/FinnishOpenFOAMUsersDay2010_GayerVTT.pdf?format=original > ] > > Etherpad (http://etherpad.org/) might be integrated with RDfa ( > http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-rdfa- > primer/) markup for integration with semantic data (important for > integration with ISO15926 data and > value network data) > > The P2P network architecture might be oriented as a node-arc graph like in > (http://www.w3.org/2001/11/IsaViz/) except that each node would represent > a separate processing node > ... and you might have a drag and drop methodology or some way of > selecting nodes...perhaps mapped > by geolocation ...and structured data search...perhaps SQRWL could be used > to find the lowest > bidder ...bartering can be done as in (emodelsgrid.pdf) > [http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cpe.690/abstract] > > Value networks...or the interactions between each team ..or within a team > would be modelled with an > REA accounting model (McCarthy.pdf --> REA_ontology_uml.pdf --> rea.owl > (ontology expressed as > xml by me)) ... used in practice by Bob Haugen working for the sensorica > project > (http://www.sensorica.co/), > http://valuenetwork.referata.com/wiki/Main_Page) > [https://www.msu.edu/~mccarth4/McCarthy.pdf] > [http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-160/paper22.pdf] > > > Use Ripple to transfer forms of value (https://ripple.com/) > > Cryptocurrency ...Enhance with Ethereum integration ... ( > https://www.ethereum.org/) ...for smart > contracts...etc... > > Triples may be edited...preferably by editing visually ...using > Hollenbachs web widgets > (thesis_hollenbach.pdf [presented earlier]) > > Provenance ... concurrent version control (like git or github) for the > instances of ontologies (and > perhaps ontologies themselves) with R &W Base (ldow2013-paper-01.pdf) > [http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-996/papers/ldow2013-paper-01.pdf] > > Make requests to buy something using VRM ( > http://projectdanube.org/videos/video-the-three- > visions/) .... select products or parts expressed as instances of > ( > http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/OEP/SimplePartWhole/simple-part-whole-relations- > v1.3.html) .... (produced by value networks representing teams, people, > companies, virtual > enterprises ... etc) > > Select printers by IP address and have them produce whatever at an IP > address using BotQue > (https://www.botqueue.com/) > > Federate device status and info into a graph that looks like IsaViz, > Maltego, etc...to monitor creations > by value networks ...or printers...laser cutters.... factories .... etc > ....with calbimonte.pdf > [http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-839/calbimonte.pdf] > > Federate status and info --- I.O.T. ---> Internet of Things > > History .... show a history of browsing .... Buttons [to the beginning of > browsing: 1st action] [forward > one action] [run a movie showing all actions in sequence] [stop frame > progression in movie] [move to > the last action] > > load structured data from a computer or through http ... (as a .rdf, .owl > or similar w3c standard file) .... > this forms a starting point for browsing....for example you could load a > graph describing you...and then > find patterns in data on the web that matches your nodes and > edges...(using sparql or sqwrl perhaps) > matching nodes and edges will allow you to find jobs, projects, > etc....(value networks .... or projects > that match what you're doing) > > > -Brent Shambaugh >
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