Re: Cost and access (Was Re: [ESWC 2015] First Call for Paper)

On 07/10/2014 14:33, "Gray, Alasdair" <A.J.G.Gray@hw.ac.uk> wrote:

>On 3 Oct 2014 16:06, Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org> writes:
>>
>> > Let's work through the requirements and a plausible migration plan.
>>We need:
>> >
>> > 1 persistent storage: it's hard to beat books for a feeling of
>>persistence.
>> > Contracts with trusted archival institutions can help but we might
>>also
>> > want some assurances that the protocols and formats will persist as
>>well.
>>
>> In my area, the majority of journals aren't printed; I've thrown away
>> conference proceedings the last decade anyway.
>>
>> Protocols and formats, yes, true a problem. I think in an argument
>> between HTML and PDF, then it's hard to see one has the advantage over
>> another. My experience is that HTML is easier to extract text from,
>> which is always going to be base line.
>>
>> For what it is worth, there are achiving solutions, including
>> archive.org and arxiv.org both of which leap to mind.
>>
>>
>> > 2 impact factor: i have the impression that conventional publishers
>>have a
>> > bit of a monopoly and and sudden disruption would be hard to
>>engineer. How
>> > do to get leading researchers to devote their work in some new
>>crackpot
>> > e-journal to the exclusion of other articles which will earn them more
>> > points towards tenure and grants? Perhaps the answer is slowly build
>>the
>> > impact factor; perhaps it's some sort of revolution in the minds of
>> > administrators and funders.
>>
>> This is true. So, if the reason that ESWC and ISWC only accept papers in
>> PDF is because we need LNCS for tenure and that they will only take PDF,
>> it would be good to have a public statement about this.
>I think PDF is only at the submission stage. For camera ready the source
>file (s) - latex or word - are required.
>Also in this brave new world, how would the length of a submission be
>determined?

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Michael

>Alasdair
>
>>
>> As it stands, the only statement that the semantic web community are
>> making is that web formats are too poor for scientific usage.
>>
>>
>> > I work towards a network of actionable data just like the rest of you
>>so I
>> > don't want to discourage this conversation; I just want to focus it.
>>
>> Okay. I would like to know who made the decision that HTML is not
>> acceptable and why.
>>
>> Phil
>>
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