- From: Richard Light <richard@light.demon.co.uk>
- Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 13:15:13 +0000
- To: Daniel Vila Suero <dvila@delicias.dia.fi.upm.es>, public-lod@w3.org
- Message-ID: <547F0CE1.9050004@light.demon.co.uk>
On 03/12/2014 12:13, Daniel Vila Suero wrote: > >> Ah, so you can do it for Shakespeare, but not for me. :-) My HTML >> (see above) has a link to the work Museum Documentation Systems, but >> the Turtle doesn't. > > :-) We will work to bring your links up to date! At least, we hope it > was easy to find yourself in datos.bne.es :-) Yes, it was very easy. I was sad not to see Presenting XML (SAMS Net, 1997) on there, but that's hardly the fault of your LD implementation. >> >>>> Also, there seems to be some confusion in the URL pattern: the >>>> subject URL within the RDF is >>>> http://datos.bne.es/resource/XX1000054, i.e. "resource" replaces >>>> "autor". >>> We have kept the canonical URIs for things that we published in >>> previous versions: http://datos.bne.es/resource/ which correspond to >>> non-information resources and use the 303 mechanism to provide >>> different representations, in this case changing to a typed URI >>> pattern + the file extension, this was motivated to support nicer >>> URIs for the human-oriented content of the portal and its similar to >>> patterns like the one used in DBpedia where they do /resource/ --> >>> /page/ or /resource/ --> /data/ + the file extension for RDF >>> representations. >> Having recently finished "Linked Data for Libraries, Archives and >> Museums" (van Hooland and Verborgh), I am newly enthused about the >> application of a proper REST approach. To conform to this, I think, >> the URLs quoted when a resource is dereferenced should be compatible >> with the URL itself. Otherwise, won't machine agents attempting to >> use these URLs to navigate become confused? > My understanding is that an agent should only use the Location to > retrieve more data (a representation of a resource). Given a canonical > URI to name the entity (http://datos.bne.es/resource/XX1000054), an > agent can try to dereference it, asking for a concrete representation > that he understands (e.g., turtle) and what it gets back is a LOCATION > with a Turtle representation of the entity in question, that it's > described in terms of canonical URIs (e.g., > http://datos.bne.es/resource/XX1000054 a frbr:Person; rdfs:label > "Richard"). The agent then can follow his nose using these URIs to > retrieve more data (in the RDF representations we only use canonical > URIs not Locations). > > We have tried to follow existing best practices (ISA guidelines [1] > mention for example the pattern /id/ --> /doc/), but we are open to > suggestions from the community on how to improve content-negotiation > mechanisms because our goal is to make the data useful for application > developers. OK, so the content negotiation for both variants works in the same way? That is certainly what I am finding. So even if an agent starts off from the "autor" variant of a URL, it will end up being able to follow its nose using the "resource" variants, which it will find in the machine-processible variant of its choice. Works for me. :-) Richard > > Best wishes > > Daniel > > [1] > https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/sites/default/files/D7.1.3%20-%20Study%20on%20persistent%20URIs_0.pdf >> >> Richard >> >>> >>> Thank you very much for your comments, they help us to improve the >>> service. >>> >>> Daniel >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> On 03/12/2014 10:11, Daniel Vila Suero wrote: >>>>> The *National Library of Spain* (BNE) (www.bne.es >>>>> <http://www.bne.es>) and the *Ontology Engineering Group* >>>>> (www.oeg-upm.net <http://www.oeg-upm.net>) are glad to announce >>>>> the new *datos.bne.es <http://datos.bne.es> >>>>> (http://datos.bne.es)* Linked Data service (in Spanish). >>>>> >>>>> This new service represents a milestone of the Linked Data project >>>>> started by the end of 2011 and that already published*Linked Open >>>>> Data under a Public Domain license* (Creative Commons CC0). We >>>>> have been working to improve many aspects of the service and would >>>>> like to share with you some *key features*: >>>>> >>>>> *A new way to search, discover and explore* >>>>> *-------------------------------------------------------------* >>>>> >>>>> The new (beta) portal exploits linked data *to create better >>>>> experiences for the user*. A graph with millions of new >>>>> connections allows the user to explore the collections >>>>> comprehensively and across three core entities: authors, works and >>>>> topics. The search engine (e.g., http://datos.bne.es/find?s=joyce >>>>> <http://datos.bne.es/find?s=joyce>) also uses this graph to >>>>> retrieve and rank entities, presenting relevant information to the >>>>> user and allowing for simple, easy-to-use faceting. >>>>> >>>>> Besides, we continue to offer a public SPARQL endpoint >>>>> (http://datos.bne.es/sparql) for people to query and use the data >>>>> for their own applications, content negotiation, and we also >>>>> provide schema.org <http://schema.org> descriptions of authors and >>>>> works using JSON-LD. >>>>> >>>>> *More data, more links* >>>>> *-------------------------------* >>>>> >>>>> We have published the full catalogue comprising *more than 9 >>>>> million records and around 150.000 digitalized materials* that >>>>> generate more than 140 million RDF triples. These linked data >>>>> resources describe and give access to authors, organizations, >>>>> topics, modern and ancient books, photographs, cartographic >>>>> materials, drawings, manuscripts, or printed and manuscript music. >>>>> >>>>> We provide around *1.4 million sameAs links* and add links to new >>>>> datasets such as ISNI, data.bnf.fr <http://data.bnf.fr>, >>>>> id.loc.gov <http://id.loc.gov>, and geo.linkeddata.es >>>>> <http://geo.linkeddata.es>. More importantly, we have >>>>> significantly increased the internal links between authors, >>>>> bibliographic resources and digital materials. >>>>> >>>>> *The BNE data model* >>>>> *-----------------------------* >>>>> >>>>> The BNE vocabulary, inspired by the FRBR data model, reuses and >>>>> integrates several vocabularies such as IFLA FRBR, ISBD, or RDA, >>>>> among others. The vocabulary is available for both humans and >>>>> machines at http://datos.bne.es/def/, it is documented in English >>>>> and Spanish. We will soon provide alignments to the aforementioned >>>>> vocabularies. >>>>> >>>>> *Help us to improve* >>>>> *---------------------------* >>>>> >>>>> We would very much appreciate receiving feedback from the >>>>> community. If you have any ideas/comments on how to improve the >>>>> service, you encounter issues/problems, you want to collaborate, >>>>> etc. please get in touch. But first of all, we invite you to visit: >>>>> >>>>> http://datos.bne.es >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and our best wishes. >>>>> >>>>> Daniel Vila Suero, Asunción Gómez Pérez, Ricardo Santos and Ana >>>>> Manchado, on behalf of the OEG and BNE teams. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Richard Light* >>> >> >> -- >> *Richard Light* > -- *Richard Light*
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