Re: Outdated linkeddata.org website

If we want to establish hierarchy shouldn't we have:
linkeddata.semanticweb.org
and
open.linkeddata.semanticweb.org

(OK, I'm being flippant, but making linkeddata.org an entry point for 
purely large open interlinked datasets, under the Cloud criteria, is a 
bit of a misnaming anyway)

Barry



On 01/05/13 11:09, Luca Matteis wrote:
> Dear Hugh,
>
>     o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org/> could feed off a subset
>     of semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org/>, by re-skinning
>
>     o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org/> might simply lead to
>     semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org/> 
>
>
> I like the strict separation between the two sites, I feel it should 
> remain this way. We all agree that LOD belongs under the SW umbrella, 
> but it's a small subset of SW, so definitely needs its own contextual 
> domain. The separation needs to be made clear for newcomers, so 
> mashing these two domains together isn't going to help them.
>
> I wonder if this could be our chance to really shine and show off the 
> benefits behind LOD. I agree with Kingsley and Jürgen that 
> linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org> should be powered by the LOD 
> cloud itself. I am just not sure I understand all the jargon they are 
> throwing at it, but it feels like the right way.
>
> Luca
>
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk 
> <mailto:hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Question:
>     What should be the relationship with http://semanticweb.org?
>
>     It seems to me that there will always be a big overlap, certainly
>     for tools, etc.
>     In fact, is there anything that would go on linkeddata.org
>     <http://linkeddata.org> that couldn't also usefully be on
>     semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org>?
>     If that is true, then fragmenting the sources of information for
>     newcomers and others is not a good thing to do.
>     And doubling the work that a contributor has to do is not good either.
>
>     If we tried to do some amalgamation:
>     o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org> could feed off a subset
>     of semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org>, by re-skinning
>     o linkeddata.org <http://linkeddata.org> might simply lead to
>     semanticweb.org <http://semanticweb.org>
>     o There might be clever technology, using tagging etc to do
>     something more sophisticated
>
>     (I am reminded of the BBC choosing to contribute to MusicBrainz
>     instead of trying to maintain its own KB.)
>
>     Also I have been trying to find out who (if anyone) is currently
>     able to make a little change to the http://data.semanticweb.org
>     publishing - can anyone remind me where we are at the moment please?
>
>     Best
>     Hugh
>
>     On 30 Apr 2013, at 15:39, Tom Heath <tom.heath@theodi.org
>     <mailto:tom.heath@theodi.org>> wrote:
>
>     > Hi Yury, Luca, all,
>     >
>     > There's a separate, off-list thread going on at the moment with
>     > Stéphane Corlosquet, who has offered to help maintain the site (and
>     > now has admin rights) -- thanks Stéphane!
>     >
>     > You're right, the site is very stale. As I've said many times
>     before,
>     > I'm open to any suggestions about how to use the domain for the
>     > greatest benefit of the community. So, all ideas welcomed,
>     though they
>     > have to include a willingness to participate and a plan for how to
>     > actually get the work done on an ongoing basis. As history shows I'm
>     > too busy right now to participate regularly :(
>     >
>     > Cheers,
>     >
>     > Tom.
>     >
>     >
>     > On 30 April 2013 14:28, Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com
>     <mailto:katkov.juriy@gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >> It seems like the website is abandoned. It's strange that the
>     diagram is not
>     >> developing as well: it is the most common Power Point slide in
>     every
>     >> Semantic Web-related presentation :)
>     >> -----
>     >> Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Luca Matteis
>     <lmatteis@gmail.com <mailto:lmatteis@gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>> Hello,
>     >>>
>     >>> I was wondering if we could make http://linkeddata.org/ a bit
>     more open &
>     >>> community friendly. Currently I find its contents a bit
>     outdated. For
>     >>> example, the Research page only contains content from 2009. I
>     think a
>     >>> "Community" page is missing where we could have links to G+,
>     Twitter and IRC
>     >>> communities. Also we could have a page for Meetups and
>     conferences around
>     >>> LOD.
>     >>>
>     >>> I find the OpenID log in to be a bit unfriendly. There's many
>     people who
>     >>> have never heard of this technology, and it is a bit
>     overwhelming to have to
>     >>> copy & paste an OpenID url in order to log in to the website.
>     >>>
>     >>> Tom Heath seems to be the administrator, so perhaps we can
>     discuss about a
>     >>> better Wiki system for the site? Maybe Semantic Wiki ;)?
>     >>>
>     >>> Let me know what you think!
>     >>>
>     >>> Luca
>     >>
>     >>
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > --
>     > Dr Tom Heath
>     > Data Scientist
>     > Open Data Institute
>     > http://theodi.org/
>     >
>     >
>
>
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