- From: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
- Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 00:54:12 +0200
- To: Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
- Cc: Norman Gray <norman@astro.gla.ac.uk>, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, "public-lod@w3.org community" <public-lod@w3.org>
On 6 Aug 2013, at 23:41, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: > Thanks Henry. > Actually, I tried both of those before posting. > > On 6 Aug 2013, at 22:08, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> > wrote: > >> >> On 6 Aug 2013, at 22:17, Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote: >> >>> *Conclusion* >>> So, as a mac user, the pages I found most useful were >>> https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/posts/62pFBxAm7Ev >>> to generate the cert >>> and >>> https://webid.turnguard.com/WebIDTestServer/debug >>> to check I had it right. >>> Also, http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebID told me what the RDF should look like. >>> >>> It still seems to me that this is not a technology that is very useable - it really shouldn't have taken so many messages to help me! >>> I was thinking of setting up for my users to use WebID on a little social networking site I have, but I think I will give it a miss for the moment! >> >> Hugh, if you use an end user directed service such as https://my-profile.eu you can get a certificate in one click. >> If you choose to use the hard way, by doing everything by hand then things get complicated. But then you could argue >> that HTTP is complicated too, if you tried to write one by hand. > As I said, what I don't want is yet another account to think about, and I knew that from the start. > Just where does this site have a link that will help me? > I really, really didn't want to do it the hard way - that is why I found these sites before posting. Good, you want to do it the manual way, and there things will be harder, of course. I think we can make things simpler, especially with things like rww.io. Perhaps a python script that does it all for you would be the type of thing you need? >> >> The video on https://webid.info/ shows just how simple things can be. > (I assume you don't mean https://webid.info/ which is refusing connections, you mean http://webid.info/ .) yes. > And when I tried to view the video, it sat there in my browser, saying "loading", so I gave up. > Actually, I now see that it could have played; but then it is a 10 minute video, which is too long to seem what I wanted (I confess to having an aversion videos as explanations - they are far harder to scan back in). For describing user interface interactions videos are the best way to do things. > Now I can see it, I have to say it doesn't start by giving me anything like what I was after - it starts to explain what the problem is that is being solved - I really don't care about that - all I want is a WebID - the easy way. > It is an interesting video, but pretty far from what I was after. > As Norman says, it starts off with Alice and Bob, which I know means it is telling me stuff I don't need to know, and will probably be at the wrong level. > We have mention of DNS, namespaces, hashtag URLs, TLS, X509, X500, LDAP, … > Finally we get to "Creating a certificate". > I see a web page with a "create certificate" button, but can't see the URL. > It is Clerezza on bbl fish, I think, but I don't know how I would get there to make my certificate easily. > It says that I should do it on the home page, but I confess that I am still at a loss as to where I can find it. > > Sorry if this sounds critical, but I don't think the video is what I need, and feel obliged to explain why. yes, it's a bit old now, and could do with improvement. The part that is still interesting is the piece that shows how one can make a WebID X509 certificate in one click.... So a lot more needs to be done here. Henry > > Best > Hugh >> >> >> Henry >> >> Social Web Architect >> http://bblfish.net/ >> > Social Web Architect http://bblfish.net/
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