Re: Outdated linkeddata.org website

Sounds interesting, but still a bit unclear. Do you have concrete examples
of how would this (the new linkeddata.org) look like?
Are you proposing a linkeddata.org entry point which is basically Linked
Data resource in itself which links to other Linked Data resources? All of
which is about Linked Data itself ;)

INCEPTION


On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>wrote:

>  On 4/30/13 2:18 PM, Luca Matteis wrote:
>
> Kingsley,
>
>  Hold on I don't get it. We're talking about the entry-point for Linked
> Data information, which is linkeddata.org
>
>
> Do am I. That's a data space on the Web. Ideally, it should exemplify the
> "deceptive simplicity" of Linked Data.
>
> It should be a place where resources are created, edited, and deleted
> using the file create, save, and share pattern.
>
> It's most basic front door should look like the file manager view on your
> desktop [1].
>
> Different identities will have different privileges with regards to
> document creation, editing, and deletion.
>
> All documents created in this data space would bear Linked Data based
> content, of course some of this could be coarse and in other cases
> fine-grained, it doesn't really matter.
>
>
>  Of course then we will link to other resources and sites (just as the
> site is doing now). I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to.
>
>  What problem are you trying to solve exactly?
>
>
> Using Linked Data to bring linkeddata.org back to life.
>
>  We're simply trying to make linkeddata.org more open and accessible.
>
>
> And nothing I am suggesting is contrary to that goal.
>
> Links:
>
> 1. http://kingsley.idehen.net/DAV/home/kidehen/Public/ -- that's a simply
> example of the file create, save, and share pattern with a conventional
> directory browse UI
> 2. http://bit.ly/119fsdg -- simple example of how Web resource access and
> control can be driven Linked Data.
>
> Kingsley
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>wrote:
>
>>  On 4/30/13 12:51 PM, Luca Matteis wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>>  Yes I have been discussing with Stéphane as well. Hopefully we can get
>> things going.
>>
>>  About the willingness to participate, if we make the system open enough
>> (but with spam control) then we really don't need to be setting goals about
>> the community's willingness to participate. It will create a spontaneous
>> collaborative environment.
>>
>>  That's why I favor a wiki system. But Drupal works very similarly to
>> wikis, right? So no need to change the technology. Just more open and
>> user-friendly signup system is enough for now.
>>
>>  Luca
>>
>>
>>  All,
>>
>> Circa. 2013 we have Web Access Controls and verifiable Identity that
>> scales to the Web. Basically, these are applications of the very technology
>> we are encouraging the world to explore and implement. If we don't use
>> these technologies ourselves why should be in any position to ask others to
>> use this technology.
>>
>> Here's what we have:
>>
>> 1. WebID -- HTTP URI that denotes Agents
>>
>> 2. WebID Profile Document -- the content of this document describes an
>> entity denoted by a WebID
>>
>> 3. An X.509 Certificate that includes a WebID in its Subject Alternative
>> Name slot -- this is for all intents and purposes a local profile graph
>> installed to a secure location on your machine, alongside an associated
>> private key that's paired with said certificate's public key
>>
>> 4. WebID+TLS -- uses RDF based entity relationship semantics and PKI to
>> authenticate a WebID
>>
>> 5. Web Access Control Ontology -- describes resource access controls.
>>
>> How do you make it work hassle free?
>>
>> 1. Get a WebID from an WebID Identity Provider -- there are several (a
>> WebID supporting IdP will take the tedium out of steps 1-4 above)
>> 2. Use a content management system that supports resource access controls
>> based on the combined use of a WebID and the Web Access Control Ontology --
>> there are a number of these around.
>>
>> Tom: you know how to get a hold of me, so lets get this domain back to
>> what we aspired it would be circa. 2007 in Banff :-)
>>
>> Links:
>>
>> 1. http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebID -- WebID Information Portal
>> 2. http://id.myopenlink.net/certgen -- simple WebID generator
>> 3. http://id.myopenlink.net/ods/webid_demo.html -- simple WebID verifier
>> 2. http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebAccessControl  -- Web Access Controls.
>>
>>
>> Kingsley
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Tom Heath <tom.heath@theodi.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Yury, Luca, all,
>>>
>>> There's a separate, off-list thread going on at the moment with
>>> Stéphane Corlosquet, who has offered to help maintain the site (and
>>> now has admin rights) -- thanks Stéphane!
>>>
>>> You're right, the site is very stale. As I've said many times before,
>>> I'm open to any suggestions about how to use the domain for the
>>> greatest benefit of the community. So, all ideas welcomed, though they
>>> have to include a willingness to participate and a plan for how to
>>> actually get the work done on an ongoing basis. As history shows I'm
>>> too busy right now to participate regularly :(
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Tom.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 April 2013 14:28, Yury Katkov <katkov.juriy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > It seems like the website is abandoned. It's strange that the diagram
>>> is not
>>> > developing as well: it is the most common Power Point slide in every
>>> > Semantic Web-related presentation :)
>>> > -----
>>> > Yury Katkov, WikiVote
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Luca Matteis <lmatteis@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hello,
>>> >>
>>> >> I was wondering if we could make http://linkeddata.org/ a bit more
>>> open &
>>> >> community friendly. Currently I find its contents a bit outdated. For
>>> >> example, the Research page only contains content from 2009. I think a
>>> >> "Community" page is missing where we could have links to G+, Twitter
>>> and IRC
>>> >> communities. Also we could have a page for Meetups and conferences
>>> around
>>> >> LOD.
>>> >>
>>> >> I find the OpenID log in to be a bit unfriendly. There's many people
>>> who
>>> >> have never heard of this technology, and it is a bit overwhelming to
>>> have to
>>> >> copy & paste an OpenID url in order to log in to the website.
>>> >>
>>> >> Tom Heath seems to be the administrator, so perhaps we can discuss
>>> about a
>>> >> better Wiki system for the site? Maybe Semantic Wiki ;)?
>>> >>
>>> >> Let me know what you think!
>>> >>
>>> >> Luca
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  --
>>> Dr Tom Heath
>>> Data Scientist
>>> Open Data Institute
>>> http://theodi.org/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   --
>>
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>>
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