Re: Google Knowledge Graph Experiment

On 5/18/12 3:36 AM, Ivan Herman wrote:
> On May 18, 2012, at 06:51 , Eric Franzon wrote:
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>> Ivan,
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>> Actually, some modest testing has shown something other than geography at play here. Earlier today, colleagues in London and California were able to see GKG rich data visualizations, while others in the US (myself included -- also in California) and Europe could not.
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>> I spoke to a Google representative this afternoon who confirmed the gradual roll-out, but would not (or could not) discuss the algorithm. He did hint that people with Google accounts will be first to see the enhancements.
> Hm. Ok, although I do have a google account...
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> Anyway, no big deal. There is time to do this, but what this shows is that running an experiment now may be premature.

No, time is a critical factor. When it intersects with data it becomes 
even more valuable. Google could have simply stated (clearly) that the 
rollout was phased. Instead, some of us burned hours (we don't have) 
trying to figure out why the "try this" link did work for us. If that 
page had indicated that failure to see the Knowledge Graph sidebar was 
as result of phased rollout we wouldn't have incurred those "opportunity 
costs" etc..

It also goes to show the issues that arise when machines make decisions 
for humans based on profile data etc..

Kingsley
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> Cheers
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> ivan
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>> Cheers,
>> --Eric
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 17, 2012, at 9:28 PM, Ivan Herman<ivan@w3.org>  wrote:
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>>> Kingsley,
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>>> the problem is that, as usual, the GKG is a US centric thing for now, At least here in the Netherlands it does not seem to work yet.
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>>> (I guess I could set up a proxy to my account in MIT, and reconfigure my browsers to work that way, but that is too much trouble...)
>>>
>>> :-(
>>>
>>> Ivan
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>>> On 17 May 2012, at 22:38, Kingsley Idehen<kidehen@openlinksw.com>  wrote:
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>>>> All,
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>>>> I have a theory (at this point) that Google has used profile analytics (not a bad thing per se.) to drive the rollout of their new Knowledge Graph service. I've dropped a post on G+ with links to a Google Drive folder with screenshots that feed my current theory about profile driven rollout. Basically, you have two users (distinct profiles) issuing the same query, with different results.
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>>>> I am interested in finding out how many of you actually see the new Knowledge Graph sidebar.
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>>>> Links:
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>>>> 1. http://goo.gl/dZgxf -- G+ post about my theory
>>>> 2. http://goo.gl/6eemj -- Shared Google Drive Folder .
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