- From: Juan Sequeda <juanfederico@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 12:30:55 -0500
- To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Cc: public-lod@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CAMVTWDwBnbwG0PiS=t4W0+mfF+0LAy5sU4yUdteoy1NG5PALzA@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>wrote: > On 7/26/12 10:56 AM, Juan Sequeda wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 6:43 AM, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>wrote: > >> On 7/26/12 6:50 AM, Michael Brunnbauer wrote: >> >>> Hello Pablo, >>> >>> nobody doubts that links are useful and part of a plethora of small and >>> big >>> databases and APIs. >>> >>> What I am particularly interested in is: Why should a small/medium sized >>> player switch from >>> >>> -using URLs of pages about things to using URIs that denote things >>> >>> -APIs and RDBs to RDF/SPARQL/OWL >>> >> >> How about looking at it this way. You are packaging and selling data >> access via the Web. The big challenges are: >> >> 1. slicing up value units >> 2. associating monetary values with those units >> 3. identifying who has access to units of value, and under what terms and >> conditions. >> >> 1-3 happens in a machine readable way. This is the problem solved by >> WebID, WebID authentication protocols, and WebID based access control >> lists. As I am sure you know, the aforementioned are just application of >> Linked Data. >> >> > mmm.. what problem is this solving? How am I reducing costs and saving > money with this? > > > Of course you are reducing costs, saving money, and accelerating > enterprise agility if you have control over 1-3. > > If you can't control access to your data using sophisticate policies that > reflect your data usage domain, the resulting costs will simply introduce > inertia. > > Remember, I did ask for specificity. You are generalizing when you say: > does it reduce costs or save money. In what business model context? . Let's > discuss a specific business model associated with Linked Data. > > If you want to talk about enterprise exploitation of Linked Data, that's > fine. If you want to talk about Data as a Service, that's fine. Let's nail > down what we are talking about, that's all I ask of you. > Let's talk about enterprise exploitation of Linked Data > > Kingsley > > > > >> Links: >> >> 1. https://plus.google.com/s/webid%20acls%20idehen -- posts and >> exercises showcasing utility of WebID ACLs . >> >> Kingsley >> >> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Michael Brunnbauer >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:18:26PM +0200, Pablo N. Mendes wrote: >>> >>>> Would the offer of data and API integration services count? There is >>>> linked >>>> data without Linked Data: >>>> "Factual Places combines data on 58 million local businesses and points >>>> of >>>> interest with rich APIs to bring context to every point worldwide." >>>> http://www.factual.com/solutions/web-and-mobile-apps >>>> http://www.factual.com/solutions/enterprise >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Pablo N. Mendes >>>> http://pablomendes.com >>>> Events: http://wole2012.eurecom.fr (*Deadline: July 31st 2012*) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Kingsley Idehen < >>>> kidehen@openlinksw.com>wrote: >>>> >>>> All, >>>>> >>>>> There is a tendency assume an eternal lack of functional and scalable >>>>> business models with regards to Linked Data. I think its time for an >>>>> open >>>>> discussion about this matter. >>>>> >>>>> It's no secret, I've never seen business models as challenging Linked >>>>> Data. Quite the contrary. That said, instead of a dump from me about my >>>>> viewpoints on Linked Data models, how about starting this discussion by >>>>> identifying any non "Advertising based business model" that have >>>>> actually >>>>> worked on the Web to date. >>>>> >>>>> As far as I know, "Advertising" and "Surreptitious Personal Profile >>>>> Data >>>>> Wholesale" are the only models that have made a difference to the >>>>> bottom >>>>> lines of: Google, Facebook, Twitter, Yahoo! and other non eCommerce >>>>> oriented behemoths. >>>>> >>>>> Based on the above, let's have a serious and frank discussion about >>>>> business models with the understanding agreement that one size will >>>>> never >>>>> fit all, ever, so this rule cannot be overlooked re. Linked Data. Also >>>>> remember, Business models aren't silver bullets, they are typically >>>>> aligned >>>>> with markets (qualified and quantified pain points) and the evolving >>>>> nature >>>>> of tangible and monetizable value. >>>>> >>>>> Hopefully, the floor is now open to everyone that has a vested >>>>> interest in >>>>> this very important matter :-) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Kingsley Idehen >>>>> Founder & CEO >>>>> OpenLink Software >>>>> Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com >>>>> Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/**blog/~kidehen< >>>>> http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen> >>>>> Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen >>>>> Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/**112399767740508618350/about >>>>> <https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about> >>>>> LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/**kidehen< >>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> Kingsley Idehen >> Founder & CEO >> OpenLink Software >> Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com >> Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen >> Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen >> >> Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about >> LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > > Regards, > > Kingsley Idehen > Founder & CEO > OpenLink Software > Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com > Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen > Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen > Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about > LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen > > > >
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