Re: Linked Data Demand & Discussion Culture on this List, WAS: Introducing Semgel, a semantic database app for gathering & analyzing data from websites

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> > However, just to balance the picture slightly ...
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> > There are *some* clear, well documented examples of semweb/RDF/LD
> delivering business value through data integration. The most famous of
> these being probably: Garlik (now Experian), Amdocs and arguably the BBC.
> In my experience for every publicised example there are several non-public
> or at least less visible examples of companies quietly using the technology
> internally while not shouting about it. I've come across examples in
> banking, publishing, travel and health care - at different levels of
> maturity.
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> Yes, for me these are all great results. However, the problem for me is
> convincing other industries, and the toughest question I am always faced
> with is "and why could I not solve the issue with established technology
> XYZ, which my engineers already know?". As long as we cannot answer this
> question, it will not be easy.
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AMEN!!!!!!!!



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> > Not saying the business value story is perfectly articulated or the
> evidence is watertight, but it's not totally absent :)
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> > While it's not your main point, I would also say we have reasonable
> arguments for the value of linked data over just CSVs for publishing
> government statistics and measurement data. The benefits include safer use
> of data because it's self-describing (e.g. units!), ability to slice and
> dice through API calls making it easier to build apps, ability to address
> the data and thus annotate it and reference it. The more advanced
> government departments approach this as "publish once, use many". One
> pipeline that lets people access the data as dumps, through REST APIs, as
> Linked Data or via apps - all powered by a shared Linked Data
> infra-structure. It's not CSV or Linked Data it's CSV *and* Linked Data.
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> Yes. It was actually not really an argument from my side, I just wanted to
> point out the kind of discussions I face with people out there. I totally
> agree with what you say.
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> Greetings,
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> Sebastian
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