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Re: Question on "moving" linked data sets

From: Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 19:17:14 +0000
To: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
CC: public-lod community <public-lod@w3.org>
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Hi Antoine,
Apart from all the internal stuff, you (or rather your users) can of course use http://sameas.org (in fact, this is part of its raison d'Ítre, to use an English phrase). E.g.
http://sameas.org/?uri=http://stitch.cs.vu.nl/vocabularies/rameau/ark:/12148/cb14521343b
is the main one, but there is a specialist library one at http://sameas.org/store/kelle e.g. 
http://sameas.org/store/kelle/?uri=http://stitch.cs.vu.nl/vocabularies/rameau/ark:/12148/cb14521343b

If you wanted your own store to only have the mappings you care about and carrying your own trust to your users, then please email me and I will create it.

Best
Hugh

On 20 Apr 2012, at 14:11, Antoine Isaac wrote:

> Thanks a lot for your feedback! That's really precious.
> 
> @Richard, Jon: yes, we'll try to have the 301 working for a while. But not forever, so it would be good if something could function as a more stable solution. Though I'm not sure the requirement is too strong, in our case. It's not as if we were dbPedia ;-)
> 
> @Kevin: yes, the sameAs statement is served on the data.bnf.fr side.
> 
> 
> @Bernard, Ed, on using dcterms:replaces instead of owl:sameAs between the stitch and bnf URIs for our SKOS concepts:
> 
> For once, I have quite a good feeling about using owl:sameAs. It seems to really match the case at hand: the URIs are really about the same resource. And with the new situation, all the 'official' statements on the stitch URIs comes from the data.bnf.fr site. And there's just one such statement: the sameAs one!
> So that limits the risk of dangerous inferences that people are usually afraid of, I'd say.
> 
> We could still use dcterms:replaces *next* to owl:sameAs. But there's a conflict: one resource would replace itself...
> 
> In fact it seems that the dcterms:replaces option considers two resources (one that replace the other). Which in turns hints that you're considering that the URIs denote the URI themselves (or a 'concept-with-a-URI'), and not the resource (concept). I'm quite reluctant to this...
> 
> Best,
> 
> Antoine
> 
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> We have a question on an what to do when a linked data set is "moved" from one namespace to the other. We searched for recipes to apply, but did not really find anything 'official' around...
>> 
>> The VU university of Amsterdam has published a Linked Data SKOS representation of RAMEAU [1] as a prototype, several years ago. For example we have
>> http://stitch.cs.vu.nl/vocabularies/rameau/ark:/12148/cb14521343b
>> 
>> Recently, BnF implemented its own production service for RAMEAU. The previous concept is at:
>> http://data.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb14521343b
>> (see RDF at http://data.bnf.fr/14521343/web_semantique/rdf.xml)
>> 
>> The production services makes the prototype obsolete. Our issue is how to properly "transition" from one to the other. Several services are using the URIs of the prototype. For example at the Library of Congress:
>> http://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh2002000569
>> 
>> We can ask for the people we know to change their links. But identifying the users of URIs seems too manual, error-prone a process. And of course in general we do not want links to be broken.
>> 
>> Currently we have done the following:
>> 
>> - a 301 "moved permanently" redirection from the stitch.cs.vu.nl/rameau prototype to data.bnf.fr.
>> 
>> - an owl:sameAs statement between the prototype URIs and the production ones, so that a client searching for data on the old URI gets data that enables it to make the connection with the original resource (URI) it was seeking data about.
>> 
>> Does that seem ok? What should we do, otherwise?
>> 
>> Thanks for any feedback you could have,
>> 
>> Antoine Isaac (VU Amsterdam side)
>> Romain Wenz (BnF side)
>> 
>> [1] RAMEAU is a vocabulary (thesaurus) used by the National Library of France (BnF) for describing books.
>> 
> 
> 

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