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Re: Explaining the benefits of http-range14 (was Re: [HTTP-range-14] Hyperthing: Semantic Web URI Validator (303, 301, 302, 307 and hash URIs) )

From: Hugh Glaser <hg@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 21:24:25 +0000
To: Leigh Dodds <leigh.dodds@talis.com>
CC: Norman Gray <norman@astro.gla.ac.uk>, "tom.heath@talis.com" <tom.heath@talis.com>, Yang Squared <yang.square@gmail.com>, "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>
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On 19 Oct 2011, at 17:59, Leigh Dodds wrote:

> Hi,
<snip>

> So, can we turn things on their head a little. Instead of starting out
> from a position that we *must* have two different resources, can we
> instead highlight to people the *benefits* of having different
> identifiers? That makes it more of a best practice discussion and one
> based on trade-offs: e.g. this class of software won't be able to
> process your data correctly, or you'll be limited in how you can
> publish additional data or metadata in the future.
> 
> I don't think I've seen anyone approach things from that perspective,
> but I can't help but think it'll be more compelling. And it also has
> the benefits of not telling people that they're right or wrong, but
> just illustrate what trade-offs they are making.
> 
> Is this not something we can do on this list?
I am pretty sure you will find that the answer is no, "we" can't.
Much as I and many others on the list might like you to, you will be unable to create a new thread and maintain it on the topic you wish.
This list is dysfunctional, at least in this respect, and you will find it is in the responses.
Best
Hugh
> I suspect it'd be more
> useful than attempting to categorise, yet again, the problems of hash
> vs slash URIs. Although a canonical list of those might be useful to
> compile once and for all.
> 
> Anyone want to start things off?
> 
> As a leading question: does anyone know of any deployed semantic web
> software that will reject or incorrectly process data that flagrantly
> ignores httprange-14?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> L.
> 
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> Leigh Dodds
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