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Re: Squaring the HTTP-range-14 circle

From: David Wood <david@3roundstones.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 10:36:27 -0400
Message-Id: <15ACB842-AB2D-4FD2-AB4F-8D98C814A7AE@3roundstones.com>
To: "<public-lod@w3.org> community" <public-lod@w3.org>
Hi all,

This thread seems to me to be classic "neat vs. scruffy" argument [1].  I used to be a neat, when I was young, foolish and of course selfish.  Now that I am old enough to see others' points of view, I have become scruffy.  Either that, or I'm just tired of trying to force others to do things my way.

The Web is a scruffy place and that is a feature, not a bug.


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neats_vs._scruffies

On Jun 17, 2011, at 10:27, Kingsley Idehen wrote:

> On 6/17/11 2:55 PM, Ian Davis wrote:
>>> BUT when the click a "Like" button on a blog they are expressing they like the
>>> >  blog, not the movie it is about.
>>> >
>>> >  AND when they click "like" on a facebook comment they are
>>> >  saying they like the comment not the thing it is commenting on.
>>> >
>>> >  And on Amazon people say "I found this review useful" to
>>> >  like the review on the product being reviewed, separately from
>>> >  rating the product.
>>> >  So there is a lot of use out there which involves people expressing
>>> >  stuff in general about the message not its subject.
>> As an additional point, a review_is_  a seperate thing, it's not a web
>> page. It is often contained within a webpage. It seems you are
>> conflating the two here. Reviews and comments can be and often are
>> syndicated across multiple sites so clearly any "liking" of the review
>> needs to flow with it.
> Yes, it is a separate thing representable as a Data Object. Now the obvious question: what is a Web Page? Isn't that a sourced from Data at an Address that's streamed to a client that uses a specific data presentation metaphor as basis for user comprehension?
> Are the following identical or different, re. URI functionality ?
> 1. http://dbpedia.org/resource/Linked_Data
> 2. http://dbpedia.org/page/Linked_Data
> 3. http://dbpedia.org/data/Linked_Data.json .
> I may want to bookmark: http://dbpedia.org/page/Linked_Data, I may also be interested in its evolution over time via services lime memento [1] .
> The thing is that re. WWW we have an Information Space dimension and associated patterns that's preceded the Data Space dimension and emerging patterns that we (this community) are collectively trying to crystallize, in an unobtrusive manner.
> Links:
> 1. http://www.mementoweb.org/guide/quick-intro/
> -- 
> Regards,
> Kingsley Idehen	
> President&  CEO
> OpenLink Software
> Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
> Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
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