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Re: Squaring the HTTP-range-14 circle [was Re: Schema.org in RDF ...]

From: Pat Hayes <phayes@ihmc.us>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:40:09 -0500
Cc: Linked Data community <public-lod@w3.org>
Message-Id: <D5CBFDBD-A65D-4B6D-AFE3-D445A11A42EE@ihmc.us>
To: Jason Borro <jason@openguid.net>

On Jun 15, 2011, at 10:04 PM, Jason Borro wrote:

> Apologies if my keyboard sneered at you, though comparing an application problem to 1% of hr14 at web scale hardly trivializes it; certainly it does the opposite.  Good luck preserving your mental model if you require webmasters to spell Korzybski.

I'd prefer they actually read him, though I won't hold my breath. Sorry to bother you by using a very long foreign name. 


> On 6/15/2011 6:26 PM, Pat Hayes wrote:
>> On Jun 15, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Jason Borro wrote:
>>> I agree with your sentiments Danny, fwiw.  The current scheme is a burden on publishers for the sake of a handful of applications that wish to "refer to these information resources themselves", making them "unable to talk about Web pages using the Web description language RDF".
>>> What about minting a new URI at "http://information.resourcifier.net/encodedURI" or similar for talking about such things?  The service could even add value by tracking last update times, content types, encodings, etc.
>>> Jason
>>> p.s. Don't bother criticizing the half baked idea, I thought about it for<  10 seconds.  The point is 100 alternatives could have been hashed out in the time spent discussing and implementing http-range-14.
>> I confess to finding this kind of sneering remark rather annoying. If you think it is this trivial to work out some 'alternative', why don't you come up with a few actual ideas and see what happens when they get a little peer review? Your idea, above, hardly makes first base, as Im sure you already realized when you added the p.s. So why not try inventing one that has a snowballs chance in hell of actually working? Im sure that the world would be delighted if you could solve this trivial problem in 5 ways, let alone a hundred.
>> If you agree with Danny that a description can be a substitute for the thing it describes, then I am waiting to hear how one of you will re-write classical model theory to accommodate this classical use/mention error. You might want to start by reading Korzybski's 'General Semantics'.
>> Pat

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