Re: recording meetings

A few quick follow up thoughts about this recording thing

(the transcripts are v useful to catch up and document what was said, but
 a bit difficult and long to read. Recordings do have an important place
for ppl who cannot attend the meetings)

a few other possibilities to explore:

- is there anyone really who would not consent to their voice being
recorded in this group? aren't most people here to share and make their
voice heard?

- if not, or if they are a tiny minority, then permission to record could
be a condition to participating in the call in the first place.

- was thinking about the parallel with taking minutes, isnt a recording the
same as minutes? has anyone every objected to what they say in  a call be
struck of the proceedings? would this be a legitimate/sane request (unless
these had been recorded incorrectly of course). How can the law
be different between recording an intervention in writing and/or using
appropriate technology (voice)

- a solution that does not require a muffle functionality to be in place
yet, could be having two parallel calls going on
one where the participants give consent to record their voice, where they
can also speak and intervene, then a
'listen only' call, where participants are not allowed to intervene (but
can do so on IRC and email for example)
Somehow it feels fair that if someone dont want their voice recorded, by so
doing, also waive their right to make their voice heard. They can always
post a note :-)

Just thoughts for the record

Til next

PDM

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Paola Di Maio <paola.dimaio@gmail.com>wrote:

> Take this opportunity to apologise for missing the last meeting (belated)
> I was travelling
>
> Sounds like there may be a new requirement for recording software feature:
> when the caller dials the call, should be asked to give consent to record,
> if this is not given, they should be able to participate in the call,
> however the recording should be 'muted' or substituted with some music or
> other drill. Should not be difficult to implement
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 07:52 -0800, Holm, Jeanne M (1760) wrote:
>> > Nikos--
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm not sure we'll be doing an audio recording, but let me check…
>>
>> As I understand it, the laws around audio recording make it too risky.
>> In particular, in some jurisdictions, including Massachusetts where our
>> phone bridge is, the law requires consent from *all* parties for
>> recording a telephone conversation.  Given the number of possible
>> attendees, and the difficulty of identifying each of them, let alone
>> getting their consent, I don't think it's practical.
>>
>>
>>    -- Sandro
>>
>> >
>> > We will be capturing the chat over IRC and that will be shortly a day
>> > or two after the meeting.
>> >
>> >
>> > --Jeanne
>> >
>> > **********************************************************
>> > Jeanne Holm
>> > Evangelist, Data.gov
>> > U.S. General Services Administration
>> > Cell: (818) 434-5037
>> > Twitter/Facebook/LinkedIn: JeanneHolm
>> > **********************************************************
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Nikos Roussos <nikos@autoverse.net>
>> > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 03:50:01 -0800
>> > To: Jeanne Holm <Jeanne.M.Holm@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> > Cc: W3C eGov IG mailing list <public-egov-ig@w3.org>, Linked Data
>> > community <public-lod@w3.org>
>> > Subject: Re: W3C eGov Meeting Time Change: 20 December 5 pm Eastern
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Is there going to be an audio recording available after the meeting?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Nikos Roussos
>> > about | linkedin
>> >
>> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Holm, Jeanne M (1760)
>> > <jeanne.m.holm@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> >         Hi all--
>> >
>> >
>> >         Our W3C eGovernment Interest Group will be meeting tomorrow
>> >         with an exciting agenda on licensing issues around government
>> >         data and services.  One of our key speakers, Dr. Anne
>> >         Fitzgerald, is joining us from Brisbane and we'll be shifting
>> >         the time to better accommodate that time zone.  Apologies in
>> >         advance for keeping our European colleagues up late, and a
>> >         great opportunity for others to join at a more reasonable
>> >         time.
>> >
>> >
>> >         20 December, 10-11:30 pm GMT/5-6:30 pm EDT
>> >         21 December, 8-9:30 am Brisbane
>> >
>> >
>> >         Speakers:
>> >           --Dr. Anne Fitzgerald, University of
>> >         Queensland,
>> http://www.law.qut.edu.au/staff/facstaff/afitzgerald.jsp
>> >           --Sarah Pearson and team, Creative
>> >         Commons, http://creativecommons.org/
>> >
>> >
>> >         Agenda:
>> >           --Licensing issues for open data and government services
>> >           --Impacts of licensing choices on providers and consumers of
>> >         data and services
>> >           --Looking at specific uses of Creative Commons
>> >           --Open questions
>> >
>> >
>> >         Verify your local event time
>> >         at
>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=W3C+eGovernment+Interest+Group+Licensing+Discussion&iso=20111220T17&p1=263&ah=1&am=30
>> >
>> >
>> >         To join, dial +1.617.761.6200 (for the Zakim bridge) and use
>> >         conference 3468 ("EGOV")
>> >         To join the chat, go to http://irc.w3.org/ and enter #egov for
>> >         the channel.
>> >
>> >
>> >         Looking forward to talking to you all tomorrow!
>> >
>> >
>> >         --Jeanne Holm
>> >
>> >         **********************************************************
>> >         Jeanne Holm
>> >         Evangelist, Data.gov
>> >         U.S. General Services Administration
>> >         Cell: (818) 434-5037
>> >         Twitter/Facebook/LinkedIn: JeanneHolm
>> >         **********************************************************
>> >
>> >
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