- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 16:09:22 -0400
- To: glenn mcdonald <glenn@furia.com>
- CC: "public-lod@w3.org" <public-lod@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <4DA4B172.7050707@openlinksw.com>
On 4/12/11 3:55 PM, glenn mcdonald wrote: > > Please post the URL in question so I can double check what's > happening. Remember, I am sharing URLs across the Web, there are > many factor in play re. time variant nature of resources. etc.. > > Anyway, give me a URL and I can look into what might be happening. > > > http://linkeddata.uriburner.com/ode/?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FMichael_Jackson > > To you, I've wired the setting backwards i.e., I opted not to > impose the overhead of owl:sameAs union expansion by default. > > > No, this is not a "to you" thing. The checkbox is off, but the sameAs > expansions *are* showing. I'm not arguing a philosophical point, I'm > observing that you have a UI bug. The link above doesn't correspond to any link I've sent to you owl:sameAs inference context. Basically, that's ODE one of many browsers we offer. Its forte isn't showcasing owl:sameAs expansion. Here are the links I sent earlier: 1. http://lod.openlinksw.com/describe/?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FMichael_Jackson -- basic description of 'Micheal Jackson' from DBpedia 2. http://lod.openlinksw.com/fct/rdfdesc/usage.vsp?g=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FMichael_Jackson -- list of source named graphs in the host DBMS 3. http://lod.openlinksw.com/fct/rdfdesc/usage.vsp?g=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FMichael_Jackson&tp=2 -- list of named graphs with triples that reference this subject 4. http://lod.openlinksw.com/fct/rdfdesc/usage.vsp?g=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FMichael_Jackson&tp=3 -- explicit owl:sameAs relations across the entire DBMS (clicking on each Identifier will unveil the description graph for the Referent of said Identifier) 5. http://lod.openlinksw.com/fct/rdfdesc/usage.vsp?g=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FMichael_Jackson&tp=4 -- use of an InverseFunctionalProperty based rule to generate a fuzzy list of Identifiers that potentially share the same Referent (click on each link as per prior step) 6. http://lod.openlinksw.com/describe/?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FMichael_Jackson&sas=yes -- inference context enhanced description of 'Micheal Jackson' (this is a union expansion of all properties across all Identifiers in an owl:sameAs relation with DBpedia Entity, hence use of paging re. handling result set size.) 7. http://lod.openlinksw.com/describe/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FMichael_Jackson&sas=yes&p=6&lp=7&op=4&prev=&gp=6 - Page 5 of 8 re. enhanced description of 'Micheal Jackson' . I also sent the following links in response to your SPARQL solution to Danny's puzzle: 1. http://lod.openlinksw.com/c/CV5SCWN -- your SPARQL query 2. http://lod.openlinksw.com/c/CYOT3KC -- SPARQL 1.1 variant 3. http://lod.openlinksw.com/c/CYGCJVN - DESCRIBE (using this via raw /sparql endpoint will produce a graph in format of your choice). Your queries: **For the interested, the single-domain SPARQL query was this: PREFIX rdfs:<http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#> PREFIX wn:<http://www.w3.org/2006/03/wn/wn20/schema/> PREFIX id:<http://wordnet.rkbexplorer.com/id/> SELECT DISTINCT ?planet WHERE { ?s1 wn:memberMeronymOf id:synset-solar_system-noun-1 . ?s1 rdfs:label ?planet . OPTIONAL { ?s1 wn:containsWordSense ?ws1 . ?ws1 wn:word ?w . ?ws2 wn:word ?w . ?s2 wn:containsWordSense ?ws2 . ?s2 wn:hyponymOf id:synset-Roman_deity-noun-1 . } FILTER (!bound(?s2)) } and in SPARQL 1.1 it could be simplified to (I think): PREFIX rdfs:<http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#> PREFIX wn:<http://www.w3.org/2006/03/wn/wn20/schema/> PREFIX id:<http://wordnet.rkbexplorer.com/id/> SELECT DISTINCT ?planet WHERE { ?s1 wn:memberMeronymOf id:synset-solar_system-noun-1 . ?s1 rdfs:label ?planet . MINUS { ?s1 wn:containsWordSense ?ws1 . ?ws1 wn:word ?w . ?ws2 wn:word ?w . ?s2 wn:containsWordSense ?ws2 . ?s2 wn:hyponymOf id:synset-Roman_deity-noun-1 . } } > >> These are great. I support HTTP access, multiple formats, and >> URL-addressable queries/results/views. > > But you have a "silo". The day you deliver Objects with IDs that > resolve to their Representations via URLs is the day I'll drop the > "silo" tag re. your data space :-) > > > I wasn't even talking about Needle, but that day came long ago. All > Needle nodes have IDs that resolve to representations via URLs. Okay, what where you talking about? Specificity helps everyone, this is a public forum etc.. -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen President& CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen Twitter/Identi.ca: kidehen
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