- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:54:45 -0400
- To: "Peristeras, Vassilios" <vassilios.peristeras@deri.org>
- CC: Dave Reynolds <dave.e.reynolds@googlemail.com>, "Emmanouil Batsis (Manos)" <manos@abiss.gr>, Linked Data community <public-lod@w3.org>, public-egov-ig@w3.org
Peristeras, Vassilios wrote: > Hello all, > I have the feeling that we are (at least partly) reinventing the wheel > here. There have been several initiatives drafting generic models and > representations for organizations. Just two examples below [1][2] which > go back to 90ies. > More generally, an in-depth look at design and data patterns literature > could also help a lot. I have the feeling that others before this group > have defined concepts like "organization", "legal entity" etc... We > could re-use their conceptual (or data or formal) models, instead of > starting the discussion from scratch. > Best regards, > Vassilios > > [1] http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/project/enterprise/enterprise/ontology.html > [2] http://www.eil.utoronto.ca/enterprise-modelling/tove/ > > > Both of your links point to PDFs or Postscript docs. Are there any actual ontology doc URLs? Kingsley > -----Original Message----- > From: public-egov-ig-request@w3.org > [mailto:public-egov-ig-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Dave Reynolds > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 11:27 AM > To: Emmanouil Batsis (Manos) > Cc: Linked Data community; public-egov-ig@w3.org > Subject: Re: Organization ontology > > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 01:03 +0300, Emmanouil Batsis (Manos) wrote: > > >> Sorry for jumping in. I was thinking that >> >> a) the way i get FormalOrganization, it could as well be called >> LegalEntity to be more precise. >> > > Not quite, there are other LegalEntities that are not Organizations. > > The LegalEntity notion could be made explicit: > > org:FormalOrganization > subClassOf org:Organization AND ns:LegalEntity > > This is better modelling because the primitive concepts are now explicit > and the nature of org:FormalOrganization as a derived concept is > clear. > > I nearly did it that way but my concern was that putting LegalEntity > into org: would open up a whole can of worms about needing richer > modelling of the notion of LegalEntity (e.g. Jurisdiction etc). That > would be off topic for the focused goals and requirements for org. > > >> b) what happens when organizations change legal status? >> > > Pretty much any aspect of organizations change over time :) In the > context of this work there are already separate approaches to handling > versioning and change so org: defers to those. Though, in some > applications you do want to explicitly represent the historical trace of > those changes hence the inclusion of OPMV via org:ChangeEvent to give a > minimal foundation for that. > > Cheers, > Dave > > > > > > -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen Twitter/Identi.ca: kidehen
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