- From: adasal <adam.saltiel@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 13:27:45 +0100
- To: Alexandre Passant <alexandre.passant@deri.org>
- Cc: Chris Sizemore <Chris.Sizemore@bbc.co.uk>, Juan Sequeda <juanfederico@gmail.com>, public-lod <public-lod@w3.org>, Semantic Web <semantic-web@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <l2ge8aa138c1004160527vbf31243ex43dc6da6105f1ad5@mail.gmail.com>
I'm going to look at this this week end. Will come back with comments. Seems like the twitter tweet may be a small enough data item for me to grasp the concepts? Many thanks. Adam On 16 April 2010 13:15, Alexandre Passant <alexandre.passant@deri.org>wrote: > Hi, > > On 16 Apr 2010, at 10:37, Chris Sizemore wrote: > > > the main problem is gonna be the cognitive dissonance over whether a > tweet is an information or non-information resource and how many URIs are > needed to fully rep a tweet... > > > > so, who's gonna volunteer to publish the linked data version of Twitter > data, a la db/wiki[pedia] ... > > That's what we're doing in SMOB [1] > It translates Twitter data if you integrate your Twitter account in your > SMOB client, see for instance [2] and check the 'RDF' links > In the current version, hashtags and @replies are not yet exported (planned > for upcoming release), but they are in another exporter available at [3] - > translating streamed Twitter data as RDF. > It's using SemanticTweet to model the user accounts. > > Both exporters use FOAF, SIOC, OPO, MOAT, CommonTag, etc. > > Best, > > Alex. > > [1] http://smob.me > [2] http://apassant.net/smob/ > [3] code.google.com/p/rtsw > > > > > > > > > best > > > > Cs > > > > > > > > On 16 Apr 2010, at 10:28 AM, "adasal" <adam.saltiel@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> twitter have a hard task as they have to take into account usage. The > community have evolved their own, inconsistent, usage - for instance this > tweet > >> greenhaze #ff big up: @_Jameslloyd @AlysFowler @brightgreenscot > @AskTheClimateQ @faisalislam @valerieoriordan @peopleandplanet @38_degrees > @krishgm > >> compared to > >> craftygreenpoet Quiz party manifesto writers, Ed Miliband, Oliver Letwin > and Danny Alexander. Join in now http://bit.ly/9eYpSI #38degrees > #ukelection > >> > >> Notice the #ff hash tag and the phrase 'big up:' in the first tweet as > well as the many references (@ tags). > >> So a popular sign #ff has been invented and there are different styles > of posting, of drawing attention. > >> The developers of a name space might have to take all of these issues > into account, for instance the range of intentions of posters of which > 'drawing attention' may just be one, or be a super set. Or, alternatively, > just create a basic name space with a few, lose, defined entities? > >> I think that the problem would be to define a semantics that allows > users to continue to invent usage. > >> Or will invention be seen to peter out anyway as people settle on a few > useful 'tools' such as the #ff hash tag? > >> > >> Of course, the other side of introducing semantics is that it could > increase the expressive scope of what is an incredibly restricted format. > But twitter might find that counter productive. The restriction, which is a > product of a lack of common symbols that might be used knowingly to extend > it, is the mother of invention. Often that invention lies in a sexual > direction (or products or money). With regard the sexual it extends into > that realm well because the mystery of not knowing is coupled with the > necessity to invent 'something' on top of what is really a well known human > area - the play of ambiguity suits the subject matter making it seem racier > than perhaps it really is. > >> > >> A formalism might destroy this though? > >> > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> Adam Saltiel > >> > >> > >> On 16 April 2010 02:52, Juan Sequeda <juanfederico@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hopefully everybody has heard that Twitter will release some annotation > feature which will allow to add metadata to each tweet. > >> > >> I just read this blog post > http://scobleizer.com/2010/04/15/twitter-annotations/ > >> > >> and the following caught my attention: "There aren’t any rules as to > what can be in this metadata. YET. All the devs I’ve talked to say they > expect Twitter to “bless” namespaces so the industry will have one common > way to describe common things" > >> > >> I'm just wondering what people here think about this. > >> > >> > >> Juan Sequeda > >> +1-575-SEQ-UEDA > >> www.juansequeda.com > >> > > > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk > > This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain > personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically > stated. > > If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. > > Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in > reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. > > Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. > > Further communication will signify your consent to this. > > -- > Dr. Alexandre Passant > Digital Enterprise Research Institute > National University of Ireland, Galway > :me owl:sameAs <http://apassant.net/alex> . > > > > > > >
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