- From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:37:13 -0400
- To: Niklas Lindström <lindstream@gmail.com>
- CC: Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>, Story Henry <henry.story@bblfish.net>, nathan@webr3.org, Linked Data community <public-lod@w3.org>
Niklas Lindström wrote: > Hi, > > I definitely think IETF should place RDF representations at those > locations, as Henry suggests (e.g. 303 to say > <http://www.iana.org/assignments/relation.rdf>). Is there really no > way we could make this happen? Since the > <http://www.iana.org/assignments/relation/*> URI:s are used directly > in many places it would be very beneficial to have those be the direct > property identifiers. (And since there is really no technology other > than RDF to precisely document their meaning as relations, not going > that direct route would necessitate cumbersome indirection.) > > If not, a W3C-sanctioned vocabulary mapping each relation defined at > [1] would really be the second best. We already have [2] defining a > subset of these. > > A coordinated community effort could also do of course, as long as it > was stable, durable and gained consensual support. > > While I have seen definitions of these relations made by the community > before (e.g. used directly in AtomOwl, and a complete listing made by > Ed Summers, which I unfortunately cannot find now), I think we may > need something more centrally defined for these relations, as close to > official IANA status as possible. Something from the W3C could be > close enough. Boiling down to discoverability, consensus and > stability. > > Best regards, > Niklas > > [1]: <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nottingham-http-link-header-09#section-6.2.2> > [2]: <http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab#> > Yes, but in the meantime the fastest approach would be to put something the purl namespace with respective "owl:equivalentClass" and "owl:equivalentProperty" . Sadly, the other approaches just won't happen quickly, as already demonstrated en route to Nathan hitting this bump. Kingsley > > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Henry, I'm pretty sure you'll have all workings on this - all that's >> needed is a flattened model. I bet it would only take a couple of >> weeks (months) to prepare that in a form that the W3C would accept as >> a Note or something. If you can pull together some of your old stuff, >> I'm happy to draft some text. >> >> It needs doing soon because of the initiatives that hang off Atom are >> getting interesting. Need to be in there from the get-go. >> >> >> >> On 3 April 2010 03:56, Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> About time to do another rev of that thing? The social xg is having >>> another spin, might be a good time to throw it there. >>> >>> I suspect most folks (yourself there mostly Henry) think this time >>> around it should be done minimally..? >>> >>> On 3 April 2010 01:29, Story Henry <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2 Apr 2010, at 23:53, Nathan wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> Any guidance on using predicates in linked data / rdf which do not come >>>>> from rdfs/owl. Specifically I'm considering the range of: >>>>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/relation/* >>>>> >>>> Ah is that something you found in the AtomOWL spec? >>>> >>>> Perhaps we should just give them other names, until the IETF places RDF representations >>>> at those locations, which I imagine could take forever. >>>> >>>> Henry >>>> >>>> >>>>> such as edit, self, related etc - with additional consideration to the >>>>> thought that these will end up in rdf via RDFa/grddl etc v soon if not >>>>> already. >>>>> >>>>> Any guidance? >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Nathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://danny.ayers.name >>> >>> >> >> -- >> http://danny.ayers.name >> >> >> > > > -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen Twitter/Identi.ca: kidehen
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