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Re: Ontology Wars? Concerned

From: Adrian Walker <adriandwalker@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:17:43 -0500
Message-ID: <1e89d6a40911190617t6170fc69v117bc943c66fd1ca@mail.gmail.com>
To: nathan@webr3.org
Cc: pedantic-web@googlegroups.com, public-lod@w3.org
Hi Nathan --

You may be interested in the following short paper about a system that 'puts
it all together'.


The system is online at the same site, and shared use is free.

Apologies if you have seen this before, and thanks for your comments,

                          -- Adrian

Adrian Walker

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Nathan <nathan@webr3.org> wrote:

> Hi All,
> Many thanks so far for the invaluable input I've been getting from the
> community; I may be about to commit the cardinal sin here, but I'm a bit
> concerned and only saying this with the best intentions.
> Before I start, if I can be considered an early adopter then please do
> disregard the rest of this mail.
> I'm finding the path to entry in to the linked open data world rather
> difficult and confusing, and only for one specific reason - ontologies;
> it /feels/ like there are some kind of ontology wars going on and I can
> never get a definitive clear answer.
> Perhaps I'm missing something, but the primary focus for me is to use
> ontologies that people will be using in SPARQL (or alternative language)
> queries. Anything else appears to be a waste of time.
> Multiple properties in multiple languages that appear to describe the
> same thing make no logical sense to me whatsoever, and questioning my
> own programming capabilities here, I don't see how they will to a
> machine either.
> To put it in real terms, all I need to do is describe the relations
> between a URI and multiple other URIs, yet this is the blocker in my
> current project? - and it's really nothing complex (or shouldn't be);
> I've managed to get a grip on all the various concepts and formats,
> software, tools, methods, get everything set up, start consuming lod and
> correlating plain text entries up to URIs, yet still choosing which
> properties / ontologies to use is the blocker :(
> Please do tell me if this is just me missing something simple, if I can
> simply write up my own ontology and everybody else will be able to
> consume the data without any input from me; or me informing the world of
> the new ontology so they can consume and handle it, then great; but if
> not then surely this is a problem?
> My concern is on two levels here;
> 1: that my own path to entry is being slowed and indeed blocked by
> confusion over ontologies.
> 2: that many other people will find the same problems (or worse) and it
> could potentially be a show stopper for something so important.
> Just to clarify, I'm not dealing with big custom data sets here, I'm
> coming at LOD from the "normal" developer angle, writing systems that
> publish articles and such like; and whilst describing things like
> titles, authors, publish dates etc is all nice and simple ontology wise;
> I'm finding that describing what the content is about is virtually
> impossible - tags and subjects just don't cut it & the level of
> description of relations needs to be somewhat more fine-grained to be of
> any use.
> Many Regards & do hope I've caused no offence;
> Nathan
Received on Thursday, 19 November 2009 14:18:12 UTC

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