- From: Tom Heath <tom.heath@talis.com>
- Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:29:33 +0100
- To: "Thomas Tague" <tlt@intivo.com>, public-lod@w3.org
Hi Tom, That's really great news. This will make a huge difference to the web of data; am even more impressed than before. Apologies for ever doubting you! ;-) Tom. On 23/09/2008, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote: > Thomas Tague wrote: >> LOD Group: > Tom, > > First off, welcome! > > Really happy to see you've taken the time engage the LOD community re. > your team's efforts and long term objectives. > > Questions follow inline below. >> >> First, a philosophical point and then a few facts. >> >> When your child first learns to read you don't discard that because >> they haven't yet graduated from college. You know college is coming, >> you're already thinking about college, you may actually be actively >> working on college - but the first words are still important. >> >> Calais is learning to read. We firmly believe in releasing building >> blocks when they become available rather than waiting (and waiting and >> waiting) for the entire solution to be ready. >> >> A few specific facts to make it clearer where SemanticProxy fits in: >> >> 1) We will have de-referenceable URIs for every entity extracted by >> Calais by the end of this year. The engineering is done and we're in >> active design and build mode. We haven't finished the analysis yet - >> but this will be millions of endpoints on the day we go live. > Please clarify what you mean by "endpoints". Over here it might refer > to SPARQL endpoints or derferencable URIs. I suspect you mean URIs, but > clarification from you will aid others. >> >> 2) A *subset* of those entity types will absolutely have links to >> other linked data sources when we go live. Right now we know there >> will be substantive links for companies, geographies and a few of the >> easy ones like music, books, etc. We'll expand on that set over time >> and have a goal of setting up a community-based mechanism for >> enhancing the links over time. > > Will linkage apply to "instance data" and associated "definitions data" > (ontology / schema / data dictionary) for the Thompson Reuters linked > data spaces? > Will you be using shared ontologies where such exist, or at the very > least put out your ontology in RDFS or OWL? Even doing this open up > the doors for community participation in the data definitions linkage > effort (e.g. what's happened re. UMBEL, OpenCyc, Yago, and Wordnet). >> >> 3) At the end of this month (September) as part of Release 3.1 we'll >> be releasing company and geography disambiguation as a component of >> the metadata generation process. The company disambiguation is based >> on a lexicon of over 16M company aliases + additional hinting and we >> have a similar approach with geography. >> > Great news, but the real utility of such work will always be easier to > imbibe, by this community in particular, if the resulting output is an > RDF Linked Data Space rather than an RDF Data Island :-) > > Again, great to have you outline your development road-map here, I > certainly believe this will ultimately be a great contribution to the > burgeoning Linked Data Web. > > > Kingsley > >> Question? Ideas? Fire away. >> >> Tom >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Paul Miller <Paul.Miller@talis.com >> <mailto:Paul.Miller@talis.com>> wrote: >> >> From the post... >> >> "SemanticProxy will return dereferenceable Linked Data URIs by the >> end of this quarter." >> >> Paul >> >> -- >> Paul Miller >> Technology Evangelist, Talis >> w: www.talis.com/ <http://www.talis.com/> skype: napm1971 >> mobile/cell: +44 7769 740083 >> >> http://blogs.zdnet.com/semantic-web/ >> >> _www.linkedin.com/in/pau1mi11er >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/pau1mi11er>_ >> >> >> >> >> On 23 Sep 2008, at 13:02, Kingsley Idehen wrote: >> >>> Paul Miller wrote: >>>> Members of this list might be interested in my write-up of >>>> ThomsonReuters' latest beta service... which I think will prove >>>> pretty useful in growing the Linked Data cloud... especially for >>>> news content from the BBC et al... >>>> >>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/semantic-web/?p=194 >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Paul Miller >>>> Technology Evangelist, Talis >>>> w: www.talis.com/ <http://www.talis.com/> >>>> <http://www.talis.com/> skype: napm1971 >>>> mobile/cell: +44 7769 740083 >>>> >>>> http://blogs.zdnet.com/semantic-web/ >>>> >>>> _www.linkedin.com/in/pau1mi11er >>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/pau1mi11er> >>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/pau1mi11er>_ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Paul, >>> >>> How does this actually benefit or contribute to the Linked Data >>> Cloud? I ask specifically because URIs (of the dereferencable >>> variety) are missing in action. Hopefully, I am completely >>> overlooking something here :-) >>> >>> We tend to use the term "Proxy" or "Wrapper" to describe >>> solutions in the Linked Data realm that generate dereferencable >>> URIs based RDF graphs (aka. Linked Data Spaces) "on the fly" via >>> RDF-ization middleware. >>> >>> If possible, please encourage the OpenCalais folks (Tom et al.) >>> to respond to my comments above via a response to this post. >>> >>> Example Proxy / Wrapper URIs in the wild: >>> >>> 1. >>> >>> http://demo.openlinksw.com/proxy/html/http://www.freebase.com/view/en/abraham_lincoln >>> - Document about Abraham Lincoln >>> 2. >>> >>> http://demo.openlinksw.com/about/html/http://demo.openlinksw.com/about/rdf/http://www.freebase.com/view/en/abraham_lincoln%23this >>> - Abraham Lincoln the Entity of type foaf:Person that is also a >>> sioc:Item >>> 3. >>> >>> http://demo.openlinksw.com/about/html/http://demo.openlinksw.com/about/rdf/http://www.crunchbase.com/company/thomson-reuters%23this >>> - Thompson Reuters the Entity of type foaf:Organization that is >>> also a sioc:Item >>> 4. >>> http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/flickrwrappr/photos/Thomson_Reuters >>> - Thompson Reuters photos from Flickr >>> 5. >>> >>> http://demo.openlinksw.com/rdfbrowser2/?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de%2Fflickrwrappr%2Fphotos%2FThomson_Reuters >>> - Browser view of the data space exposed by the Flickr wrapper URI >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen >>> President & CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > > > Regards, > > Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen > President & CEO > OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com > > Find out more about Talis at www.talis.com > Shared InnovationTM > > > Any views or personal opinions expressed within this email may not be those > of Talis Information Ltd. 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