- From: Makx Dekkers <mail@makxdekkers.com>
- Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 14:26:53 +0200
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There is a controlled vocabulary for the AccrualPolicy at DCMI: http://dublincore.org/groups/collections/accrual-policy/ However, it is a very simple set of terms and does not satisfy the more complex requirements that Frans identifies. Please note that the DCMI Wiki states explicitly at http://wiki.dublincore.org/index.php/User_Guide/Publishing_Metadata#dcte rms:accrualPolicy that "the property may only be used with non-literal values". The example shows the use of a blank node with a text label, not a sting value. You can always create your own vocabulary and use the term URIs as values for the property. Makx. From: Frans Knibbe | Geodan [mailto:frans.knibbe@geodan.nl] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:41 PM To: Gannon Dick Cc: public-locadd@w3.org Mailing list; public-egov-ig@w3.org Subject: Re: A real world example: Dutch registry of buildings and addresses On 2014-05-13 22:51, Gannon Dick wrote: =============== In this dataset existing (historical) data are never change, but at some time more recent data might be added. Thinking about this I realise that this is useful information for users that really should be published in the metadata somehow. =============== Here is the "somehow". It is a SKOS/RDF style List of timestamps, partially processed - moving the next report date to rdf:first. Either DCMI <http://purl.org/dc/terms/accrualPolicy> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/accrualPolicy> or <http://purl.org/dc/terms/accrualPeriodicity> <http://purl.org/dc/terms/accrualPeriodicity> look about right for an meta element framework. Thank you. Those metadata elements seem to be close to covering the information that I would like to provide. The terms deal with 'accrual', the addition of new data to the dataset. At the moment I can't make definitive statements about the periodicity, but perhaps the term accrualPolicy could be used to express the fact that existing data will not be changed when the dataset is updated. In SQL terms, I would say that the database can be expected to change only by INSERT, not by UPDATE or DELETE. I don't know if if an expression exists that captures this kind of dataset. A comment for accrualPolicy states "Recommended best practice is to use a value from a controlled vocabulary". Could it be that such a vocabulary exists? Otherwise, the dublin core wiki provides an example of using a text literal <http://wiki.dublincore.org/index.php/User_Guide/Publishing_Metadata#dct erms:accrualPolicy> . I guess I could always resort to that. http://www.rustprivacy.org/2014/balance/gts/ A formal provenance would be nice, but this "naturally occuring" system is much better than nothing. Cheers, Gannon On 2014-05-09 21:58, Gannon Dick wrote: Hi Frans, I do have a suggestion, and it will make your life much easier. You have a date already. I suggest you add a "Gaussian Timestamp" as a "version" as well. Gauss's computation of Easter is well known. Open Office has an EASTERSUNDAY() function. The calculation, based on harmonics, is accurate to within 3 days (One of them will be a Sunday). The point is that Easter does not cause New Years (or Christmas). That is the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. If you are a business, the "cause" of a quarterly report is that it is time for a quarterly report. Same thing for monthly, weekly etc. reports. A calendar quarter is ((365.25 x 4)/16) = (1461/16) = 91.3125 days long. The fractional phase (Hour Angle) matters to Gauss's computation. It varies a bit from year to year. That is not the point. The point is that 53 million triples all have the same "birthday" so the user knows queries saved might need an update - however the user *does not need to ask you* if the data needs an update since they can figure out the schedule for themselves. This does not smooth your data in any way. New Years 1.0000 2014-01-01T00:00:00Z 1st Q. report 91.3125 2014-04-02T07:30:00Z Mid-Year 182.6250 2014-07-02T15:00:00Z 3rd Q. report 273.9375 2014-10-01T22:30:00Z Annual report 365.2500 2015-01-01T06:00:00Z (start over) The scheme is described in less detail here (funnier though) [1] http://www.rustprivacy.org/2014/balance/reports/ [2] http://www.rustprivacy.org/2014/balance/reports/StratML.pdf -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 5/9/14, Frans Knibbe | Geodan <mailto:frans.knibbe@geodan.nl> <frans.knibbe@geodan.nl> wrote: Subject: A real world example: Dutch registry of buildings and addresses To: <mailto:public-locadd@w3.orgMailinglist> "public-locadd@w3.org Mailing list <mailto:public-locadd@w3.orgMailinglist> " <mailto:public-locadd@w3.org> <public-locadd@w3.org> Date: Friday, May 9, 2014, 10:37 AM Hello list, I have just finished (I think) a renewed publication of a dataset that could serve as a nice real world example of application of the core location vocabulary. The dataset is the Dutch registry of buildings and addresses. It consists of about 573 million triples. The URI of the dataset is http://lod.geodan.nl/basisreg/bag/. This URI should be enough to enable usage of the dataset as it should provide the data necessary for further exploration. The dataset is bilingual: all terms in the main vocabulary have explanations in Dutch and English. I would be happy with any comments from this group on this data set, or the associated vocabulary. I hope I have done some things right, but probably there is some room for improvement. Anyway, I would like to list some of the issues that I have encountered that have something to do with the core location vocabulary. I would love to know what you think about these! About metadata: The dataset URI (http://lod.geodan.nl/basisreg/bag/) resolves to dataset metadata. Because this dataset contains location data (locations, addresses, geometries) I think some special metadata are called for. Issue 1: I feel that it is important to let it be known that a dataset is of a geographical nature, i.e., a consumer could expect data about locations in the data. As far as I know, there is no well established way of making such a statement. For this dataset, I specified <http://www.w3.org/ns/locn> <http://www.w3.org/ns/locn> as one of the main vocabularies used (using void:vocabulary) and I specified the spatial extent of the data (using dcterms:spatial). WDYT? Issue 2: Spatial Extent: The spatial extent of the dataset is specified by both a geometry and a dbpedia reference to the Netherlands. I think that is sufficient. Issue 3: CRS: I can think of no way to specify the CRS used in the data. An extension of LOCN to enable this would be welcome, I think. Issue 4: Level of Detail / Spatial resolution: This would be applicable to the subsets (which are named graphs) within the dataset. I think that information could be useful to consumers, but I can not think of a way to express this. About geometry: Issue 5: The geometries in the source data use the Dutch national CRS. I have transformed them to WGS84 lon/lat for several reasons: a) The triple store used (Virtuoso) does not support other CRSs yet b) I really do not like WKT literals with prefixed CRS URIs, as mandated by GeoSPARQL c) the CRS is more common, especially internationally it will be more useful. The only drawback I can think of is that this transformation would not do with very detailed geometries. Because these data are European, it would be better to use ETRS89. The current standard is far more useful for American data than for data from other continents! Issue 6: The publication is powered by Virtuoso 7.1. This means there are capabilities for using topological functions in SPARQL. The following example asks the name of the town in which a point (which could be your current location) is located, using the function st_within(). The SPARQL endpoint is http://lod.geodan.nl/sparql, as specified in the metadata. prefix bag: <http://lod.geodan.nl/vocab/bag> <http://lod.geodan.nl/vocab/bag#> select ?name from <http://lod.geodan.nl/basisreg/bag/woonplaats/> <http://lod.geodan.nl/basisreg/bag/woonplaats/> where { ?wpmut a bag:Woonplaatsmutatie . ?wpmut bag:lastKnown "true"^^xsd:boolean . ?wpmut bag:geometrie ?geom . ?wpmut bag:naam ?name filter (bif:st_within(?geom, bif:st_point (6.56,53.21))) } It is not perfect yet: topological functions operate on bounding boxes of geometries, not the geometries themselves. Also, it is not yet possible to use GeoSPARQL expressions. According to people at Openlink, these issues will be resolved soon, in a next version of Virtuoso. About application of LOCN: Issue 7: If you take a look at the vocabulary I made for this dataset (http://lod.geodan.nl/vocab/bag or http://lod.geodan.nl/vocab/bag.ttl), you can see that I tried to apply LOCN. Mostly, classes are defined as being subclasses of LOCN classes and properties are defined as being subproperties of LOCN properties. But without special measures, one can not use LOCN terms in SPARQL queries. The following example returns nothing because I have not created explicit triples for locn classes, and neither have I made inference rules. So I wonder if it is really worthwhile to use LOCN, or to use it in the way that I have. prefix locn: <http://www.w3.org/ns/locn> <http://www.w3.org/ns/locn#> select * from <http://lod.geodan.nl/basisreg/bag/ligplaats/> <http://lod.geodan.nl/basisreg/bag/ligplaats/> where { ?s a locn:Location . } Or to put in different words: what is the added value of LOCN in this case? And how could that added value be increased? 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