- From: Krzysztof Janowicz <janowicz@ucsb.edu>
- Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 09:29:50 -0800
- To: <public-locadd@w3.org>
Hi Kostis, >> My opinion is that the vocabulary must contain a property like the proposed >> "geographic identifier" to ensure interoperability with existing geospatial >> tools/datasets. We have found this property to be of great importance, >> as far as >> interoperability and adoption of Linked Data technologies from domain >> experts are Yes, but then you need a reification instead of a role as you may have multiple geographic identifiers coming from multiple (authoritative) datasets. We are currently finishing our work on a gazetteer schema and are having similar thoughts and issues. Cheers, Krzysztof On 01/03/2014 03:13 AM, Kostis Kyzirakos wrote: > Hi, > In the RDF world, every resource is identified by a URI. > > In the GIS world, a geographic feature is usually identified by a > geographic identifier. > > In the US for example, "The Geographic Names Information System > Identifier (GNIS ID) > is a variable length, permanent, numeric identifier of up to ten digits > in length that > identifies each entity uniquely within the nation. The GNIS is the new > American National > Standards Institute (ANSI) national standard code for several entity > types. Because each > entity's GNIS ID is permanent, it will not change if the entity changes > its name or if > creation of a new entity changes the alphabetic sort. [...]" [1]. > > My opinion is that the vocabulary must contain a property like the proposed > "geographic identifier" to ensure interoperability with existing geospatial > tools/datasets. We have found this property to be of great importance, > as far as > interoperability and adoption of Linked Data technologies from domain > experts are > concerned. In the past, we have developed a real-time wildfire > monitoring service [2] > for the National Observatory of Athens, where we used satellite data > along with > Linked Geospatial Data to produce fire maps. At any given point, we were > able to > export the result of a stSPARQL/GeoSPARQL query as an ESRI shape file (that > included geographic identifiers), that allowed the domain experts to use > the (enriched > with Linked Geospatial Data) shape files with their existing (I would > not call them > legacy) tools/datasets/processing chains/infrastructure in general. This > allowed them > to load the shape files to ArcGIS for example, do a thematic join (based > on the > geographic identifier that was preserved) with auxiliary datasets that > they are using > in a daily basis and are not published as Linked Open Data and produce > their final > products. > > After reading the description of the geographic identifier property, I > think that this is > property is used as spatial version of owl:sameAs between identifiers > defined by > different authorities/publishers. In addition, a publisher can use this > property to > assert that a location has a specific identifier (e.g., a URN) which is > very useful in > practice in order to ensure interoperability with existing infrastructures. > > Best, > Kostis > > [1] http://www.census.gov/geo/reference/gtc/gtc_gnisid.html > [2] http://test.strabon.di.uoa.gr/ > > > =================================================== > Kostis E. Kyzirakos, Ph.D. > Centrum voor Wiskunde en Informatica > DB Architectures (DA) > Office L320 > Science Park 123 > 1098 XG Amsterdam (NL) > tel: +31 (20) 592-4039 <tel:%2B31%20%2820%29%20592-4039> > mobile: +31 (0) 6422-95345 <tel:%2B31%20%280%29%206422-95345> > e-mail: kostis@cwi.nl <mailto:kostis@cwi.nl> > =================================================== > > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Raphaël Troncy > <raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr <mailto:raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr>> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > Is it possible to give an RDF example of meaningful usage of > "geographic > identifier"? I think that could help in understanding the issue. > > > I find myself with the same opinion than Frans. I don't yet > understand the purpose of this "geographic identifier" property, > although I understand the need for a vocab to have its own way to > describe its specific identifiers if there are some constraints on > how those identifiers should be interpreted. When this property was > introduced in the vocab? Is it a mapping with a specific field from > the INSPIRE schemas? > Best regards. > > Raphaël > > -- > Raphaël Troncy > EURECOM, Campus SophiaTech > Multimedia Communications Department > 450 route des Chappes, 06410 Biot, France. > e-mail: raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr <mailto:raphael.troncy@eurecom.fr> > & raphael.troncy@gmail.com <mailto:raphael.troncy@gmail.com> > Tel: +33 (0)4 - 9300 8242 <tel:%2B33%20%280%294%20-%209300%208242> > Fax: +33 (0)4 - 9000 8200 <tel:%2B33%20%280%294%20-%209000%208200> > Web: http://www.eurecom.fr/~troncy/ > > -- Krzysztof Janowicz Geography Department, University of California, Santa Barbara 5806 Ellison Hall, Santa Barbara, CA 93106-4060 Email: jano@geog.ucsb.edu Webpage: http://geog.ucsb.edu/~jano/ Semantic Web Journal: http://www.semantic-web-journal.net
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