- From: Ross Singer <ross.singer@talis.com>
- Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:36:32 -0400
- To: Owen Stephens <owen@ostephens.com>
- Cc: public-lld <public-lld@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <AANLkTikTwgdhs8KVEh7uP8i6sQ2m-9mvBAunmOES1Pbz@mail.gmail.com>
I think we're going to have to assume there will be lots of duplication of resources describing the same thing with different identifiers (although, hopefully interrelated) for a couple of reasons: 1) A centralized repository will never be able to keep up with everything - there will always be nodes with resources described prior to being added to the repository; possibly never added. These could also spring up in multiple places independently 2) We should not expect universal, 100% agreement on how things are defined/described. We don't have this now, we certainly can't expect this to change. 3) There are lots of non-authoritative resources (subject headings, people, class numbers, etc.) 4) A centralized repository would have to rely quite heavily on discovery - there's a huge danger of GIGO here (there are plenty of typos in the historical record) - plenty of chances of failed searches Couple this to the fact that (most) everybody is going to to have to duplicate all of the data for local indexing purposes, anyway... -Ross. On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Owen Stephens <owen@ostephens.com> wrote: > I tend to agree with Joachim - we will see more data publication and at > least in this phase will see plenty of institutions coining their own URIs. > However, I also believe that the web tends towards less duplication (this > isn't anything close to no duplication, just less duplication than we would > have otherwise). > > We are already seeing that established URIs will be used where they exist > (e.g. for LCSH) - and I guess we can expect to see more of these. > > That said, I think aggregations are a good thing (and inevitable) - and the > more identifiers are shared, and the more people make sameas and similar > statements, the easier aggregation will become. > > In terms of what we should be doing now? I'd say: > > Encourage re-use of URIs (ideally this would be baked into record creation > in libraries, but that's a whole other ball game) > Encourage sameas statements where new URIs have been coined (and > appropriate) > Start looking at how existing linked data representations of bibliographic > data can be crawled and aggregated and see what works and what doesn't > > I'm sure there is other stuff, but those are the ones that spring to mind > first > > The work of the JISC 'RDTF' (Resource Discovery Task Force) in the UK is > looking at the strategy of 'publish' and 'aggregate' - although this doesn't > dictate the use of Linked Data or RDF, many of the project falling into this > area are adopting that approach, so hopefully we will see a good exploration > of some of the issues from this area soon. See http://rdtf.mimas.ac.uk/ for > more information on this. > > Owen > > > Owen Stephens > Owen Stephens Consulting > Web: http://www.ostephens.com > Email: owen@ostephens.com > Telephone: 0121 288 6936 > > On 23 Mar 2011, at 17:16, stu wrote: > > *On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:18 AM, Neubert Joachim <J.Neubert@zbw.eu>wrote: > > I'm not sure that a centralized model for building clusters (like VIAF) or > a pre-declared central hub ("everybody maps to > WorldCat/OpenLibrary/whatever") could work.* > > A centralized model is essential if global bibliography is to be an > important part of the Web. Sure, there are work-arounds involving declared > or inferred equivalence. These all require additional work on the part of > systems and people, which will rarely be expended, with the result that link > potency will (continue to) be diluted to insignificance. > > Is it important enough for the global library community to expend the > resources to consolidate meaningful global bibliography? Can the political > impediments be overcome? > > I continue to believe that OCLC is the only likely candidate with a chance > to make this happen, and it appears that the business cases are too weak, > and constituent demand too feeble for that to happen in the current > environment. > > I just Googled the book closest to hand, and on the first page, Wikipedia > was number one, and there were two Amazon links in the top ten. No library > link of any sort appeared on the page. > > Linked data isn't going to change this without a centralized identifier > infrastructure. > > stu > > > >> > >
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