- From: Thomas Meehan <t.meehan@ucl.ac.uk>
- Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:36:51 +0100
- To: Owen Stephens <owen@ostephens.com>
- CC: Code for Libraries <CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu>, public-lld <public-lld@w3.org>, f.zablith@open.ac.uk
Owen, I fear the order of elements may be more complicated in a number of cases. The Geographic subdivision ($$z) in particular can wander. This depends largely on whether a particular Heading ($$a) or General subdivision ($$x) is allowed to be subdivided geographically (some are, some aren't). For instance, $$a Education *can* but $$x Finance *cannot*, so a book on financing education in England would be under: 650 _0 $$a Education $$z England $$x Finance. However, the subdivision ($$x) Economic aspects *can* be subdivided geographically, so the following would be done instead: 650 _0 $$a Education $$x Economic aspects $$z England. The general rule is to put the geographic subdivision ($$z) as near the end as is legal, otherwise the basic order is Topic-Topic-Place-Time-Form. What matters is that the $$z can sometimes be before an $$x and sometimes after it. Incidentally these examples and much of this wisdom can be found in Chan's "Library of Congress subject headings" 4th ed. (p. 120-121) which is very good on this sort of thing if you can get hold of a copy. A couple of other things spring to mind: - It is possible for other orders in special circumstances, e.g. with language dictionaries which can go something like: 650 _0 $$a English language $$v Dictionaries $$x Albanian. - Some of these are repeatable, so you can have too $$vs following each other (e.g. Biography--Dictionaries); two $$zs (very common), as in Education--England--London; two $xs (e.g. Biography--History and criticism). - I'm not I've ever come across a lot of $$bs in 650s. Do you have a lot of them in the database? I'm not sure how possible it would be to come up with a definitive list of (reasonable) possible combinations. Tom Thomas Meehan Head of Current Cataloguing University College London Library Services Owen Stephens wrote: > We are working on converting some MARC library records to RDF, and > looking at how we handle links to LCSH (id.loc.gov > <http://id.loc.gov>) - and I'm looking for feedback on how we are > proposing to do this... > > I'm not 100% confident about the approach, and to some extent I'm > trying to work around the nature of how LCSH interacts with RDF at the > moment I guess... but here goes - I would very much appreciate > feedback/criticism/being told why what I'm proposing is wrong: > > I guess what I want to do is preserve aspects of the faceted nature of > LCSH in a useful way, give useful links back to id.loc.gov > <http://id.loc.gov> where possible, and give access to a wide range of > facets on which the data set could be queried. Because of this I'm > proposing not just expressing the whole of the 650 field as a LCSH and > checking for it's existence on id.loc.gov <http://id.loc.gov>, but > also checking for various combinations of topical term and > subdivisions from the 650 field. So for any 650 field I'm proposing we > should check on id.loc.gov <http://id.loc.gov> for labels matching: > > check(650$$a) --> topical term > check(650$$b) --> topical term > check(650$$v) --> Form subdivision > check(650$$x) --> General subdivision > check(650$$y) --> Chronological subdivision > check(650$$z) --> Geographic subdivision > > Then using whichever elements exist (all as topical terms): > Check(650$$a--650$$b) > Check(650$$a--650$$v) > Check(650$$a--650$$x) > Check(650$$a--650$$y) > Check(650$$a--650$$z) > Check(650$$a--650$$b--650$$v) > Check(650$$a--650$$b--650$$x) > Check(650$$a--650$$b--650$$y) > Check(650$$a--650$$b--650$$z) > Check(650$$a--650$$b--650$$x--650$$v) > Check(650$$a--650$$b--650$$x--650$$y) > Check(650$$a--650$$b--650$$x--650$$z) > Check(650$$a--650$$b--650$$x--650$$z--650$$v) > Check(650$$a--650$$b--650$$x--650$$z--650$$y) > Check(650$$a--650$$b--650$$x--650$$z--650$$y--650$$v) > > > As an example given: > > 650 00 $$aPopular music$$xHistory$$y20th century > > We would be checking id.loc.gov <http://id.loc.gov> for > > 'Popular music' as a topical term > (http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh85088865) > 'History' as a general subdivision > (http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh99005024) > '20th century' as a chronological subdivision ( > http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh2002012476) > 'Popular music--History and criticism' as a topical term > (http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh2008109787) > 'Popular music--20th century' as a topical term (not authorised) > 'Popular music--History and criticism--20th century' as a topical term > (not authorised) > > > And expressing all matches in our RDF. > > My understanding of LCSH isn't what it might be - but the ordering of > terms in the combined string checking is based on what I understand to > be the usual order - is this correct, and should we be checking for > alternative orderings? > > Thanks > > Owen > > > -- > Owen Stephens > Owen Stephens Consulting > Web: http://www.ostephens.com > Email: owen@ostephens.com <mailto:owen@ostephens.com> -- Thomas Meehan Head of Current Cataloguing Library Services University College London Gower Street London WC1E 6BT t.meehan@ucl.ac.uk
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