- From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:50:58 -0700
- To: public-lld <public-lld@w3.org>
Quoting "Svensson, Lars" <l.svensson@d-nb.de>:
>
> I agree in general, too. Would a possible solution for the expression
> level be to create an ad hoc-expression for each manifestation, just in
> order to have one? That way you cannot build a good user interface _at
> once_ but eventually you could (intellectually) merge the "records"
> describing the same expression. That would definitely be a human task
> (crowdsourcing?).
I think my situation brings up the dilemma: what is the nature of that
expression "level"?
It seems to me that we have (at least) two options.
I need to draw this out in some detail, but in general it seems that
these two sketch out as:
1. separate identification each of WEMI for a given bibliographic
resource; each will have a URI, and properties will be associated only
with one of the WEMI URIs (this is the RDA viewpoint)
Work123:
Title of Work123
Author of Work123
Expression456:
Expression of Work123
Language of Expression456
Manifestation789:
Manifestation of Expression456
Title of Manifestation789
place of publication of Manifestation789
Publication date of Manifestation789
etc.
2. identification of a bibliographic resource as a whole; a URI for
the resource; with interpretation of the "FRBR-ness" of properties by
applications, probably based on an application profile. This would
allow some views of the data that vary from the strict FRBR view.(Note
that in RDA, the properties are all associated with a single FRBR
entity, so there is no ambiguity between them in terms of FRBR
association in an RDA environment.)
BibResourceABC:
Work title of BibResourceABC
Author of BibResourceABC
Language of BibResourceABC
Manifestation title of BibResourceABC
Place of publication of BibResourceABC
Publication date of BibResourceABC
Works, Expressions and Manifestations could be identified *somewhere*
(e.g. Open Library, Freebase), and probably in more than one place.
If, however, there were no identified entity, this model would still
be functional. Some entities also have commonly known identifiers (and
possibly more than one) that could help bring together data for the
same entity but generated in a different environment. (This is
actually how RDA defines identifiers for WEMI.
BibResourceABC:
BibResourceABC represents FreebaseWork123
BibResourceABC represents OLWorkXYZ
BibResourceABC represents Expression456 (identified with ISTC ID)
BibResourceABC represents Manifestation789 (identified with ISBN, LCCN...)
Work title of BibResourceABC
Author of BibResourceABC
Language of BibResourceABC
Manifestation title of BibResourceABC
Place of publication of BibResourceABC
Publication date of BibResourceABC
Identifiers would be very useful for making statements like
"Expression456 is a translation of FreebaseWork123." But that does not
mean, to me, that the Work or Expression are "records" in the sense
that they appear to be in FRBR; that is, that the properties are
related structurally to that identifier. (And note that in FRBR there
is no identifier for the whole bibliographic description, something I
find odd, and which creates difficulties if you cannot derive a full
FRBR entity set from your data, such as my dilemma of having a
Manifestation and a Work, but no Expression identified to bring them
together.)
This #2 is a realistic version of the data that we have today,
pre-FRBR. Remember, however, that FRBR is a new way to conceptualize
the bibliographic data that we already create -- it is structurally
new, but most properties are not new. Today's data is not organized in
terms of FRBR entities, but most (all?) of the data in our records has
a place in FRBR.
I realize that this looks like a re-writing of FRBR, but in fact FRBR,
as Gordon reminds us, is a CONCEPTUAL model not a data model. To
arrive at a data model we need to think about how we want to use the
data and what services we wish to provide. I happen to think that in
many if not most cases, the bibliographic resource will be treated as
a whole for retrieval (searching), and often will be displayed as a
whole. I appreciate the efficiencies that the one-to-many
relationships may make for data creation, but the information
discovery function may not be best served by that same structure.
Different applications can use the many bibliographic properties
differently.
kc
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