- From: Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org>
- Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 12:38:21 -0400
- To: "Andy Powell" <andy.powell@eduserv.org.uk>, "Thomas Baker" <tbaker@tbaker.de>, "Karen Coyle" <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- Cc: <public-lld@w3.org>
Andy, The "metadata record" use case doesn't seem that different to me. For example, we could content-negotiate representations of a MARC bib record in a variety of models including FRBR OWL AND a DC application profile: http://example.org/bib/12345/x-dc.rdf http://example.org/bib/12345/frbr.rdf http://example.org/bib/12345/marc21.xml http://example.org/bib/12345/marc21.mrc etc. In the FRBR OWL representation, a lightweight connection between "BibRecord" and FRBR could arguably be made like so: <owl:Class rdf:about="&ex;BibRecord" /> <owl:ObjectProperty rdf:about="#&ex;describes"> <rdfs:domain rdf:resource="&ex;BibRecord" /> <rdfs:range rdf:resource="&frbr;Manifestation" /> </owl:ObjectProperty <ex:BibRecord rdf:about="http://example.org/bib/12345"> <ex:describes> <frbr:Manifestation rdf:about="http://example.org/manifestation/98765"> ... </frbr:Manifestation> </ex:describes> </ex:BibRecord> The interesting information in the MARC record can then be expressed using FRBR OWL. "Application profiled" DC seems like one of many possible variant representations to me. Jeff > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Powell [mailto:andy.powell@eduserv.org.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:26 AM > To: Young,Jeff (OR); Thomas Baker; Karen Coyle > Cc: public-lld@w3.org > Subject: RE: Library data diagram > > > I have the feeling that "application profiles" aren't necessary for > OWL > > vocabularies because they are relatively self-explanatory. DC > > vocabularies don't use OWL so they have to be explained with > > "application profiles". > > Hmmm... not really. > > OWL constraints essentially apply to the world (or that portion of the > world that it of interest) - "a 'daughter' can only have one 'mother'". > > Application Profiles constrain/describe what the DC Abstract Model > calls Description Sets (what we might have called metadata records in > the past) - collections of one or more Descriptions. Application > Profiles do not describe vocabularies. > > Andy > > -- > Andy Powell > Research Programme Director > Eduserv > t: 01225 474319 > m: 07989 476710 > twitter: @andypowe11 > blog: efoundations.typepad.com > > www.eduserv.org.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: public-lld-request@w3.org [mailto:public-lld-request@w3.org] On > Behalf Of Young,Jeff (OR) > Sent: 01 September 2010 16:08 > To: Thomas Baker; Karen Coyle > Cc: public-lld@w3.org > Subject: RE: Library data diagram > > I have the feeling that "application profiles" aren't necessary for OWL > vocabularies because they are relatively self-explanatory. DC > vocabularies don't use OWL so they have to be explained with > "application profiles". IMO, Linked Data is easier to understand if it > the resources are based on OWL. Comments? > > dc: http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/ > dcterm: http://purl.org/dc/terms/ > dcam: http://purl.org/dc/dcam/ > dctype: http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/ > others? > > Jeff > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: public-lld-request@w3.org [mailto:public-lld-request@w3.org] On > > Behalf Of Thomas Baker > > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:30 AM > > To: Karen Coyle > > Cc: public-lld@w3.org > > Subject: Re: Library data diagram > > > > Thank you, Emmanuelle, for drawing up the comparative > > diagrams [1] and thank you, Karen, for getting the ball > > rolling on discussion. > > > > A comment specifically on Singapore Framework [2]... > > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 08:38:36PM -0700, Karen Coyle wrote: > > > The Singapore Framework places guidance rules outside of the flow > of > > > vocabulary and DCAP development. This makes me think that in SF the > > > guidance rules are developed and applied after the other steps > toward > > > an application profile have taken place. > > > > As I see it, the SF diagram is intended to show how the > > components of an "application profile" relate to each other > > and to underlying foundational standards (RDF). > > > > The diagram does also suggest a workflow, and I too like to > > present it this way -- starting with Functional Requirements, > > through defining a Domain Model, specifying a Description Set > > Profile and, finally, creator a Data Format, with the designer > > "dipping down" one level to create new or cite existing domain > > models and vocabularies. And as a rough approximation, this > > seems like a reasonable way to proceed as long as it is not > > applied too mechanically. In the end, though, SF is meant > > to depict less a specific sequence of tasks than a picture of > > how things relate. > > > > > This is accurate in terms > of > > > Dublin Core metadata, which was developed initially without actual > > > guidance rules. > > > > > > In Emmanuelle's diagram of library metadata, the guidance rules > > appear > > > to precede the vocabulary. This is accurate in terms of library > > > metadata, in which the vocabularies arise from the guidance rules. > > > > > > These two models, DC and libraries, seem to me to be the extremes > of > > > the development continuum. In libraries the guidance rules are the > > > most important aspect of the metadata creation activity, and in > > Dublin > > > Core they can almost be considered unnecessary. > > > > If for libraries, guidance rules are the point of departure for > > metadata design, then "support for guidance rules" would quite > > simply need to be defined as a key functional requirement. > > > > If this is done, then the metadata creation workflow in > > libraries can be seen as fitting both the Singapore Framework > > view and its implied workflow (which starts with Functional > > Requirements) -- only that, in this case, the functional > > requirements may be unusually heavy on existing guidance > > rules... > > > > Tom > > > > [1] http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/File:LayeredModelV3.pdf > > [2] http://dublincore.org/documents/singapore-framework/ > > > > -- > > Tom Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de> > > > > >
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