- From: Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>
- Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 17:00:48 +0100
- To: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- Cc: Mark van Assem <mark@cs.vu.nl>, "Haffner, Alexander" <A.Haffner@d-nb.de>, public-lld <public-lld@w3.org>
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net> wrote: > The term "vocabularies" gets used for a lot of different things in semantic > web discussions. However, as this thread shows, there isn't an obvious set > of clear terms to use in its place. > > Depending on who you are talking to, the things that DCMI calls "value > vocabularies" are "controlled lists of terms" or "authority lists" or "pick > lists." Although 'value vocabulary' is a clear distinction to adherents of > DCAM, I have not heard that phrase used by any other communities. When I > talk to librarians, I often use the phrase "controlled list" in my > explanation. It would be good to get the 'value vocabulary' concept > disseminated broadly. Yup. "Value vocabulary" seems clear, but isn't in wide use yet. I also hear "code list" from Geo people lately (as well as moves to encode these in SKOS btw). > The analogy to properties is "data elements" in the traditional IT world. In > fact, the MARC documentation refers to the fields and subfields as data > elements. For that reason, "metadata element" and "metadata element set" > seem to resonate with folks who are already somewhat familiar with a data > processing model. However, I worry that people will assume that a property > is the same as a data element. > > The terms "property," "value" and "statement" have no meaning for folks in > the library world. These are new concepts, and should be introduced as > representing a new way of creating and using metadata. I think it is > legitimate to say that MARC does not have properties (in the semweb sense), > and there are no statements in a MARC record as it is coded today. The > advantage here is that librarians can move to new concepts and a new > vocabulary about those concepts, which I think will help keep them from > dragging the old ideas along with them into the semantic web. > > Therefore (after all of that), I would vote for using 'value vocabularies' > and 'properties' ('set of properties' for something like foaf or dcterms?), > but explain them in terms of controlled lists and data elements, emphasizing > the differences. Just a nitpic: most/many RDF vocabularies (DC, SKOS, FOAF at least) describe classes of thing as well as property terms; Agent, Image, Document etc. The fancier ones (in OWL often) also define some other bits and pieces too, eg. instances of a class (to use as a controlled value...), or to express rules. So 'set of properties' captures 2/3 of what FOAF or DC or SKOS define. 'Set of property and class terms' captures pretty much everything, unless a vocabulary is making heavy use of OWL. > Yep, easier said than done. Can't argue there :) Dan
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