Re: MARC Codes for Forms of Musical Composition

Jeff, which resources have multiple rdf:types?  Of the muscomps, they should
all only be mo:Genre.

-Ross.

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Young,Jeff (OR) <jyoung@oclc.org> wrote:

> Oops, sorry. I do seem to have some wires crossed. Let me talk to Andy
> Houghton to see if he can help sort out why I  believe multiple rdf:types
> are bad for instances.
>
> Jeff
>
> Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl> wrote:
>
> (moving this thread from [1] to the wider LLD list, this can be of
> interest beyond the XG!)
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> I'm not sure exactly why Ross' file is OWL Full, at least in the OWL 1
> sense. In the validator you point to, I get the following output:
>
>
> >     * Untyped Object Property: http://umbel.org/umbel#isAbout
> >     * Untyped Object Property: http://purl.org/ontology/mo/wikipedia
> >     * Untyped Data Property:
> http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#prefLabel
> >     * Untyped Class: http://purl.org/ontology/mo/Genre
> >     * Untyped Individual: http://dbpedia.org/resource/Symphony
> >     * Untyped Individual:
> http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh85131473#concept
> >     * Untyped Individual: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony
>
>
> It could be a aide effect of that specific validator's implementation,
> which expects all ontological data to be present in the source at
> validation time--remember that we're checking instance data here, while
> the primary purpose of this validator is, I expect, ontologies.
> Maybe if Ross had pulled the definitions for all the above constructs in
> his file, the problem would have vanished.
>
> Note that if you want to validate against the latest OWL2-DL, you can use
> http://owl.cs.manchester.ac.uk/validator/
> I've tried it, and it gives roughly the same results: in OWL2-DL you also
> have to declare explicitly the resources that you're using...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Antoine
>
> [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Jul/0000.html
>
>
> > The http://purl.org/NET/marccodes/muscomp/sy.rdf example assumes OWL
> > Full.
> >
> > http://www.mygrid.org.uk/OWL/Validator
> >
> > I think it would be better as OWL DL. This could be done by separating
> > the various types into separate identities using hash URIs. If anyone is
> > interested, I could amend the example to show how.
> >
> > As a rule, I like using OWL DL better than OWL Full because my brain
> > doesn't fall out nearly as often.
> >
> > http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-ref/#Sublanguage-def
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: public-xg-lld-request@w3.org [mailto:public-xg-lld-request@w3.org]
> > On Behalf Of Karen Coyle
> > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 10:05 AM
> > To: Ross Singer
> > Cc: public-xg-lld@w3.org; List for Working Group on Open Bibliographic
> > Data
> > Subject: Re: MARC Codes for Forms of Musical Composition
> >
> > Quoting Ross Singer<ross.singer@talis.com>:
> >
> >> Hi everybody,
> >>
> >> I just wanted to let people know I've made the MARC codes for forms of
> >> musical compositions (
> >> http://www.loc.gov/standards/valuelist/marcmuscomp.html) available as
> >> http://purl.org/ontology/mo/Genres.
> >
> > Thanks, Ross. I looked at the RDA terms [1] and interestingly type of
> > composition isn't one of the vocabularies that was defined in RDA. I
> > don't know whether that was an oversight or not -- type of composition
> > is included in the RDA rules, there's just no list to accompany it. So
> > this one may end up doing double duty: MARC and RDA.
> >
> >      kc
> > [1]http://metadataregistry.org/rdabrowse.htm
> >
> >>
> >> http://purl.org/NET/marccodes/muscomp/
> >>
> >> They follow the same naming convention as they would in the MARC 008
> > or 047,
> >> so it's easy to map (that is, no lookup needed) from your MARC data:
> >>
> >> http://purl.org/NET/marccodes/muscomp/sy#genre
> >>
> >> etc.
> >>
> >> The RDF is available as well:
> >> http://purl.org/NET/marccodes/muscomp/sy.rdf
> >>
> >>
> >> I'd love any feedback/suggestions/corrections/etc.
> >>
> >> Also, you can look around to see MARC country codes, geographic area
> > codes
> >> and language codes.  Eventually I would like to get all of the MARC
> > codes
> >> (not already modeled by LC) in there (
> >> http://www.loc.gov/standards/valuelist/).
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> -Ross.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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