- From: Robert Sanderson <azaroth42@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2020 12:00:43 -0700
- To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
- Cc: David Booth <david@dbooth.org>, Linked JSON <public-linked-json@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CABevsUE0zWS5EPmwGX8Ncw0MBSLA+9xqGN63wu9ihEDVALarMA@mail.gmail.com>
I don't understand the rationale behind this, I'm afraid. Making JSON into JSON-LD is just a matter of associating a context with the JSON, either in the data with the @context key, or at the protocol level with a link header. So a unix utility to make JSON into JSON-LD is ... cp :) Is what's needed some code that traverses a JSON document (or set of documents) and determines all of the possible paths, to then build a skeleton context document, such that it's a matter of associating the right predicate with the particular key or path? E.g. a helper tool for context creators? Rob On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 7:06 AM Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 15:34, David Booth <david@dbooth.org> wrote: > >> On 4/12/20 6:13 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: >> > On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 at 21:23, David Booth wrote: >> > On 4/11/20 11:54 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote: >> > > Is there are library that converts simple json (think just a flat >> > > object of key value pairs) Into JSON-LD >> > [ . . . ] >> > I have not seen one yet, but it's good idea. In particular, the >> > algorithm needs to recursively traverse the JSON tree and keep >> track of >> > nesting to generate an @context that will keep nested properties of >> the >> > same name distinct. See the discussion here: >> > https://github.com/w3c/EasierRDF/issues/29 >> > >> > [ . . . ] >> > Does the algorithm specifically need to traverse the tree to >> distinguish >> > foo from baz/foo >> > >> > I can see why you may want to in JSONPath for example, but given that >> > JSON predicates are "just names", would you specifically need that >> > prefix in a name, or is it a nice to have? >> >> It depends on the application. Some will need to distinguish foo from >> baz/foo and some will not. >> >> As one real-life example, in the case of FHIR RDF the distinction was >> important, which is why we were not able to use JSON-LD 1.0 in the >> original design of FHIR RDF (because 1.0 lacked the necessary nested >> context feature) but we are now able to take advantage of JSON-LD 1.1 >> (which added that feature). >> >> The reason I think the distinction between foo and baz/foo is important >> to retain in a general purpose algorithm is merely because it is much >> easier to forget the distinction between foo and baz/foo later -- or >> treat baz/foo as a subproperty of foo -- than it is to re-create that >> distinction if it is lost by the algorithm. If a general purpose >> algorithm provides an option for ignoring the distinction, then that's >> great, but I think the default should be to retain the distinction. >> Make sense? >> > > Thanks for the explanation. It makes a bit of sense. I think seeing an > example from FHIR of why it's useful may be an eye opener. > > So the mind set I am in right now think of JSON as key value pairs. When > I consider the key, my thought is "it's just a name", or "it's just a > string of characters". This is in line with my understanding of JSON. ie > it has the key itself has no special meaning whether or not it's nested. > > There's probably a few things I havent considered. But that's my thought > process in at moment. Id be happy to try and expand that thought process, > tho! > > >> David Booth >> >> -- Rob Sanderson Semantic Architect The Getty Trust Los Angeles, CA 90049
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